From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751187AbXDLRiT (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:38:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751208AbXDLRiT (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:38:19 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([192.83.249.54]:58380 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751187AbXDLRiS (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:38:18 -0400 Message-ID: <461E6DF5.6040808@zytor.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:35:49 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Bruce Fields" CC: Theodore Tso , Neil Brown , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn_Engel?= , Christoph Hellwig , Ulrich Drepper , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: If not readdir() then what? References: <46193048.6000606@zytor.com> <20070408184129.GA20871@lazybastard.org> <17947.65165.569482.976343@notabene.brown> <20070411144252.GB17778@thunk.org> <17949.25061.739035.688232@notabene.brown> <20070411232224.GF17778@thunk.org> <17949.36737.701327.104172@notabene.brown> <20070412023712.GA8175@lazybastard.org> <17949.51797.386833.917451@notabene.brown> <20070412122116.GD28148@thunk.org> <20070412171831.GD3028@fieldses.org> In-Reply-To: <20070412171831.GD3028@fieldses.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org J. Bruce Fields wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:21:16AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote: >> Again, compared to a directory fd cache, what you're proposing a huge >> hit to the filesystem, and at the moment, given that telldir/seekdir >> is rarely used by everyone else, it's mainly NFS which is the main bad >> actor here by insisting on the use of a small 31/63-bit cookie as a >> condition of protocol correctness. > > If we want to get bigger cookies into the protocol, then the sooner we > start working on that the better.... How big is big enough? And is a > larger cookie sufficient on its own? > Any fixed size is too small. It should be a dynamic size. -hpa