From: Ignatich <ignatich@gmail.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ZFS with Linux: An Open Plea
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:40:08 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <462111F8.1060700@gmail.com> (raw)
You might want to look at this discussion:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2007-April/027041.html
Let me quote my last letter:
The problem is not with CDDL, GPL is the problem. ATI and nVidia do
provide binary modules with GPL "adapters", but I don't think legality
of this approach was proven in court. I see no parties interested in
proving that it is not legal (Intel perhaps?), but Sun is another story.
They are not interested in ZFS port for Linux, because Solaris and Linux
are real competitors, and if winds change may decide to take legal
action. Also, such port can never be included in mainline for obvious
reasons and I really want to see storage system such as ZFS as "default"
for Linux in future. To sum all of this I see a number of possible
solutions for this situation:
1. Sun dual licenses ZFS as GPLv2 and thus gives green light for
ZFS-Linux port. Personally I doubt that this will happen.
2. Linux changes it's license. The chance is near zero.
3. US and EU courts clearly state that it is legal to use non-GPL kernel
modules in Linux.
4. GPL ZFS reimplementation project is started. I prefer that way until
1), 2) or 3) happen.
I know Sun opened most if not all ZFS related patents for OpenSolaris
community. So I repeat questions I asked in my first mail:
1. Are those patents limited to CDDL/OpenSolaris code or can by used in
GPL/Linux too?
2. If GPL code can't use those patented algorithms, will you please
provide list of ZFS-related patents? RAID-Z and LZJB are most obvious
technologies which may be patent protected.
<end>
So far I've got no response from Sun. According to Jeff Bonwick's blog
Sun issued 56 patents on ZFS, but I have no idea what they patented.
Sorry, binary compatible ZFS reimplementation with GPL license might not
be legal. If you know something about this or can help to get ZFS
related patent list please send me a mail.
Sincerely yours, Max V. Yudin
next reply other threads:[~2007-04-14 17:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-14 17:40 Ignatich [this message]
2007-04-15 12:44 ` ZFS with Linux: An Open Plea Nikita Danilov
2007-04-17 14:14 ` Alan Cox
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2007-04-17 8:42 David R. Litwin
2007-04-17 6:54 David R. Litwin
2007-04-17 8:18 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 13:10 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-17 13:47 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 13:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-17 15:46 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-17 16:29 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 19:58 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 22:19 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 22:12 ` David Lang
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2007-04-17 22:38 ` Roland Dreier
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2007-04-17 16:02 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-04-17 16:57 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-04-18 11:10 ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-18 11:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 11:32 ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-17 16:22 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 17:50 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-17 19:24 ` Florian Weimer
2007-04-17 19:56 ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 20:05 ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 14:59 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-17 15:08 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-04-17 15:12 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-17 15:29 ` Michal Schmidt
2007-04-15 8:57 David R. Litwin
2007-04-15 17:34 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-15 8:54 David R. Litwin
2007-04-16 0:50 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-16 3:07 ` David Chinner
2007-04-13 23:18 David R. Litwin
2007-04-13 23:43 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-14 12:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-14 14:04 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-04-14 20:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-16 9:40 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 11:19 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-16 14:02 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-16 14:20 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 14:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-16 15:46 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 15:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-16 19:02 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-16 20:18 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-18 17:25 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-18 17:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-27 5:21 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-27 21:57 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-16 19:46 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-16 18:19 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-16 19:21 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-16 19:26 ` Lee Revell
2007-04-16 20:20 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-16 20:15 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-14 21:13 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-16 9:58 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
[not found] ` <170fa0d20704160507w4af4cb92ua259a55789f95c3e@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-16 14:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 14:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-16 15:27 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 17:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-14 18:56 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-16 3:00 ` David Chinner
2007-04-15 4:16 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-15 21:58 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-05-02 15:03 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-05-02 15:42 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-02 20:53 ` Theodore Tso
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