From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753225AbXDNRmI (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:42:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753196AbXDNRmI (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:42:08 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]:57083 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751861AbXDNRmG (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:42:06 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VJEl9h+fMthBHnNNNsFpK6itO13LdbHexH7LYszAbO60bMcshM3kj1Dj71yjdvhDDZCk9ajZiPKL5WMOkZyBTYEdRhNAGfDWQGG8RbEpplPrkkzA4vwzg9He/Mwi942z6pFzlZmE4FbHe+/MDDhQ5gAUiwJbCSX6D3XU6+MBXa4= Message-ID: <462111F8.1060700@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:40:08 +0400 From: Ignatich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ZFS with Linux: An Open Plea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org You might want to look at this discussion: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2007-April/027041.html Let me quote my last letter: The problem is not with CDDL, GPL is the problem. ATI and nVidia do provide binary modules with GPL "adapters", but I don't think legality of this approach was proven in court. I see no parties interested in proving that it is not legal (Intel perhaps?), but Sun is another story. They are not interested in ZFS port for Linux, because Solaris and Linux are real competitors, and if winds change may decide to take legal action. Also, such port can never be included in mainline for obvious reasons and I really want to see storage system such as ZFS as "default" for Linux in future. To sum all of this I see a number of possible solutions for this situation: 1. Sun dual licenses ZFS as GPLv2 and thus gives green light for ZFS-Linux port. Personally I doubt that this will happen. 2. Linux changes it's license. The chance is near zero. 3. US and EU courts clearly state that it is legal to use non-GPL kernel modules in Linux. 4. GPL ZFS reimplementation project is started. I prefer that way until 1), 2) or 3) happen. I know Sun opened most if not all ZFS related patents for OpenSolaris community. So I repeat questions I asked in my first mail: 1. Are those patents limited to CDDL/OpenSolaris code or can by used in GPL/Linux too? 2. If GPL code can't use those patented algorithms, will you please provide list of ZFS-related patents? RAID-Z and LZJB are most obvious technologies which may be patent protected. So far I've got no response from Sun. According to Jeff Bonwick's blog Sun issued 56 patents on ZFS, but I have no idea what they patented. Sorry, binary compatible ZFS reimplementation with GPL license might not be legal. If you know something about this or can help to get ZFS related patent list please send me a mail. Sincerely yours, Max V. Yudin