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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Hisashi Hifumi <hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: PageLRU can be non-atomic bit operation
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:47:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <462D6FD3.2090805@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.20.2.20070424100507.049670d0@172.19.0.2>

Hisashi Hifumi wrote:
> 
> At 22:42 07/04/23, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>  >On Mon, 23 Apr 2007, Hisashi Hifumi wrote:
>  >> >No.  The PG_lru flag bit is just one bit amongst many others:
>  >> >what of concurrent operations changing other bits in that same
>  >> >unsigned long e.g. trying to lock the page by setting PG_locked?
>  >> >There are some places where such micro-optimizations can be made
>  >> >(typically while first allocating the page); but in general, no.
>  >>
>  >> In i386 and x86_64, btsl is used to change page flag. In this case, 
> if btsl
>  >> without lock prefix
>  >> set PG_locked and PG_lru flag concurrently, does only one operation
>  >> succeed ?
>  >
>  >That's right: on an SMP machine, without the lock prefix, the operation
>  >is no longer atomic: what's stored back may be missing the result of
>  >one or the other of the racing operations.
>  >
> 
> In the case that changing the same bit concurrently, lock prefix or other
> spinlock is needed. But, I think that concurrent bit operation on 
> different bits
> is just like OR operation , so lock prefix is not needed.
> 
> AMD instruction manual says about bts that ,
> 
> "Copies a bit, specified by bit index in a register or 8-bit immediate 
> value (second operand), from a bit
> string (first operand), also called the bit base, to the carry flag (CF) 
> of the rFLAGS register, and then
> sets the bit in the bit string to 1."
> 
> BTS instruction is read-modify-write instruction on bit unit. So 
> concurrent bit operation on different
> bits may be possible.


No matter what actual instruction is used, the SetPageLRU operation (ie.
without the double underscore prefix) must be atomic, and the __SetPageLRU
operation *can* be non-atomic if that would be faster.

As Hugh points out, we must have atomic ops here, so changing the generic
code to use the __ version is wrong. However if there is a faster way that
i386 can perform the atomic variant, then doing so will speed up the generic
code without breaking other architectures.

-- 
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-24  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-23 10:54 [PATCH] mm: PageLRU can be non-atomic bit operation Hisashi Hifumi
2007-04-23 11:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-23 12:34   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2007-04-23 13:42     ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-24  1:54       ` Hisashi Hifumi
2007-04-24  2:29         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-04-24  2:47         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-04-24  8:12           ` Hisashi Hifumi
2007-04-24 10:13             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24 13:40         ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-24 14:22           ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-25  8:56             ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-04-25  8:59               ` Andi Kleen

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