From: Andrew McGregor <andrew@indranet.co.nz>
To: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>, paul@clubi.ie
Cc: andre@linux-ide.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Honest does not pay here ...
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:25:14 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4630000.1042367114@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200301120927.BAA17236@baldur.yggdrasil.com>
I'm essentially paraphrasing an opinion I had access to at one time, from
one of the largest IP law specialist firms in our part of the world.
I'm not a lawyer myself, but that does convey accurately the sense of what
I was told. I suspect the US may be more 'much weaker' than 'slightly
weaker', given the context of the original.
And that's about all I can think of to say about this. Please don't think
I'm being evasive, it's just that I perhaps sounded surer that I should,
and I certainly omitted the IANAL. Also, the opinion I'm paraphrasing was
mostly not about software copyright, so this is about all it said that was
relevant.
One thing I do have in mind is to dig around in the headers etc. and see
what I can find as to (implicit or explicit) license declarations. That
may not be a priority, as I have no intention of writing non-GPL kernel
code myself anytime soon, I'm more curious and would like to see the issue
sorted out.
Andrew
--On Sunday, January 12, 2003 01:27:10 -0800 "Adam J. Richter"
<adam@yggdrasil.com> wrote:
> Paul Jakma writes:
>> And frankly, courts in most parts of the world will look at community
>> practice as a (slightly weaker than a court case) precedent [...]
>
> Since you imply that you are familiar with "courts in most
> parts of the world", I'd be interested if you could identify, and,
> ideally, quote the court decisions or laws that define this "community
> practice as a (slightly weaker than court case) precedent" doctrine,
> presumably some kind of extension of stare decisis that I haven't
> heard of before.
>
> Apparently, findlaw hasn't heard of it either. "community
> practice" only turned up one clearly inapplicable hit (in quotation
> marks so as not to turn up every page containing the words "community"
> and "practices") about "studies performed in community practice
> settings involving thousands of patients." In comparison,
> "contributory infringement" turned up 75 hits, 129 hits for "stare
> decisis", 246 hits for "court precedent." I don't see anything
> relevant from poking around google, but there were a lot of hits.
>
> Anyhow, as far as I can tell, no copyright owner other than
> Linus has given permission to use their code with proprietary modules.
> If you want to give people permission to use _your_ code under terms
> essentially identical to the LGPL (since you can always write wrapper
> functions) then feel free to state that you are granting that
> permission, or, perhaps more simply, LGPL your contributions.
>
> I'm not a lawyer. This is not intended as legal advice.
>
> Also, if you do not answer my question clearly and honestly or
> I otherwise think you've danced around it, then I may not be able to
> prioritize any more time to you respond further. That does not imply
> agreement.
>
> Adam J. Richter __ ______________ 575 Oroville Road
> adam@yggdrasil.com \ / Milpitas, California 95035
> +1 408 309-6081 | g g d r a s i l United States of America
> "Free Software For The Rest Of Us."
>
>
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-01-12 9:27 Honest does not pay here Adam J. Richter
2003-01-12 10:25 ` Andrew McGregor [this message]
2003-01-12 13:52 ` Paul Jakma
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2003-01-13 0:18 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-08 7:29 Hell.Surfers
2003-01-08 20:59 ` Philip Dodd
2003-01-09 23:27 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030107112017.15952A-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
2003-01-07 20:04 ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-06 2:08 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 20:21 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 20:29 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 22:28 ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06 0:01 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-06 0:15 ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06 1:43 ` Stephen Satchell
2003-01-06 7:40 ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06 8:37 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06 2:03 ` Ian Molton
2003-01-06 3:14 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-06 2:18 ` jw schultz
2003-01-06 1:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-05 12:34 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 19:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-05 12:26 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 14:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-05 15:33 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-05 20:07 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 15:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 0:25 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 3:21 ` Paul Jakma
2003-01-05 11:24 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-05 15:53 ` Matthew Zahorik
2003-01-05 18:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-05 19:47 ` Bruce Harada
2003-01-05 20:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-05 22:54 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-04 18:09 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 22:03 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-05 22:53 ` David van Hoose
2003-01-05 23:14 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-06 0:22 ` David van Hoose
2003-01-06 9:31 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-01-06 23:41 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-06 23:59 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 0:07 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-07 0:51 ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-07 9:57 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-07 11:21 ` Alexander Kellett
2003-01-07 23:04 ` Daniel Egger
2003-01-07 1:24 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 10:07 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-07 12:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 23:36 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 16:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-01-07 17:21 ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-07 18:33 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-07 19:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-01-07 20:58 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 23:09 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-08 0:24 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 23:35 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 23:33 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 14:24 ` Dana Lacoste
2003-01-07 23:28 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-08 0:24 ` venom
2003-01-08 0:30 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-08 0:54 ` venom
2003-01-08 1:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-08 10:08 ` venom
2003-01-08 11:05 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.10.10301080249330.421-100000@master.linux-ide.o rg>
2003-01-08 15:25 ` Stephen Satchell
2003-01-08 1:10 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-08 1:41 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-08 14:59 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-10 14:30 ` Pavel Machek
2003-01-04 17:05 Billy Rose
2003-01-04 14:12 Andre Hedrick
2003-01-04 14:22 ` Murray J. Root
2003-01-04 14:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-04 14:49 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-04 15:28 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-04 20:48 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-04 20:56 ` Mark Rutherford
2003-01-04 17:06 ` Steve Lee
2003-01-04 18:38 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-04 21:50 ` brian
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