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From: Andrew McGregor <andrew@indranet.co.nz>
To: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>, paul@clubi.ie
Cc: andre@linux-ide.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Honest does not pay here ...
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:25:14 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4630000.1042367114@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200301120927.BAA17236@baldur.yggdrasil.com>

I'm essentially paraphrasing an opinion I had access to at one time, from 
one of the largest IP law specialist firms in our part of the world.

I'm not a lawyer myself, but that does convey accurately the sense of what 
I was told.  I suspect the US may be more 'much weaker' than 'slightly 
weaker', given the context of the original.

And that's about all I can think of to say about this.  Please don't think 
I'm being evasive, it's just that I perhaps sounded surer that I should, 
and I certainly omitted the IANAL.  Also, the opinion I'm paraphrasing was 
mostly not about software copyright, so this is about all it said that was 
relevant.

One thing I do have in mind is to dig around in the headers etc. and see 
what I can find as to (implicit or explicit) license declarations.  That 
may not be a priority, as I have no intention of writing non-GPL kernel 
code myself anytime soon, I'm more curious and would like to see the issue 
sorted out.

Andrew

--On Sunday, January 12, 2003 01:27:10 -0800 "Adam J. Richter" 
<adam@yggdrasil.com> wrote:

> Paul Jakma writes:
>> And frankly, courts in most parts of the world will look at community
>> practice as a (slightly weaker than a court case) precedent [...]
>
> 	Since you imply that you are familiar with "courts in most
> parts of the world", I'd be interested if you could identify, and,
> ideally, quote the court decisions or laws that define this "community
> practice as a (slightly weaker than court case) precedent" doctrine,
> presumably some kind of extension of stare decisis that I haven't
> heard of before.
>
> 	Apparently, findlaw hasn't heard of it either.  "community
> practice" only turned up one clearly inapplicable hit (in quotation
> marks so as not to turn up every page containing the words "community"
> and "practices") about "studies performed in community practice
> settings involving thousands of patients."  In comparison,
> "contributory infringement" turned up 75 hits, 129 hits for "stare
> decisis", 246 hits for "court precedent."  I don't see anything
> relevant from poking around google, but there were a lot of hits.
>
> 	Anyhow, as far as I can tell, no copyright owner other than
> Linus has given permission to use their code with proprietary modules.
> If you want to give people permission to use _your_ code under terms
> essentially identical to the LGPL (since you can always write wrapper
> functions) then feel free to state that you are granting that
> permission, or, perhaps more simply, LGPL your contributions.
>
> 	I'm not a lawyer.  This is not intended as legal advice.
>
> 	Also, if you do not answer my question clearly and honestly or
> I otherwise think you've danced around it, then I may not be able to
> prioritize any more time to you respond further.  That does not imply
> agreement.
>
> Adam J. Richter     __     ______________   575 Oroville Road
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>



  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-12 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-12  9:27 Honest does not pay here Adam J. Richter
2003-01-12 10:25 ` Andrew McGregor [this message]
2003-01-12 13:52 ` Paul Jakma
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-13  0:18 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-08  7:29 Hell.Surfers
2003-01-08 20:59 ` Philip Dodd
2003-01-09 23:27   ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030107112017.15952A-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
2003-01-07 20:04 ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-06  2:08 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 20:21 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 20:29 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 22:28   ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06  0:01     ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-06  0:15       ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06  1:43         ` Stephen Satchell
2003-01-06  7:40           ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06  8:37             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06  2:03         ` Ian Molton
2003-01-06  3:14         ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-06  2:18   ` jw schultz
2003-01-06  1:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-05 12:34 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 19:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-05 12:26 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 14:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-05 15:33 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-05 20:07   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 15:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05  0:25 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05  3:21 ` Paul Jakma
2003-01-05 11:24   ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-05 15:53   ` Matthew Zahorik
2003-01-05 18:16     ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-05 19:47       ` Bruce Harada
2003-01-05 20:06         ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-05 22:54         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-04 18:09 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 22:03 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-05 22:53   ` David van Hoose
2003-01-05 23:14     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-06  0:22       ` David van Hoose
2003-01-06  9:31         ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-01-06 23:41         ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-06 23:59           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07  0:07           ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-07  0:51             ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-07  9:57               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-07 11:21                 ` Alexander Kellett
2003-01-07 23:04                 ` Daniel Egger
2003-01-07  1:24             ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 10:07               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-07 12:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 23:36                 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 16:32               ` Bill Davidsen
2003-01-07 17:21                 ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-07 18:33                 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-07 19:24                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-01-07 20:58                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 23:09                     ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-08  0:24                       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 23:35                   ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 23:33                 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 14:24           ` Dana Lacoste
2003-01-07 23:28             ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-08  0:24               ` venom
2003-01-08  0:30                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-08  0:54                   ` venom
2003-01-08  1:10                     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-08 10:08                       ` venom
2003-01-08 11:05                         ` Andre Hedrick
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.10.10301080249330.421-100000@master.linux-ide.o rg>
2003-01-08 15:25                           ` Stephen Satchell
2003-01-08  1:10                   ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-08  1:41                   ` Alan Cox
2003-01-08 14:59                   ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-10 14:30                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-01-04 17:05 Billy Rose
2003-01-04 14:12 Andre Hedrick
2003-01-04 14:22 ` Murray J. Root
2003-01-04 14:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-04 14:49 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-04 15:28 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-04 20:48   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-04 20:56     ` Mark Rutherford
2003-01-04 17:06 ` Steve Lee
2003-01-04 18:38 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-04 21:50 ` brian

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