From: Marko Macek <marko.macek@gmx.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "John Anthony Kazos Jr." <jakj@j-a-k-j.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [ext3][kernels >= 2.6.20.7 at least] KDE going comatose when FS is under heavy write load (massive starvation)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:43:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4632527C.6090509@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0704270852480.9964@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, John Anthony Kazos Jr. wrote:
>> Could[/should] this stuff be changed from ratios to amounts? Or a quick
>> boot-time test to use a ratio if the memory is small and an amount (like
>> tax brackets, I would expect) if it's great?
>
> Yes, the "percentage" thing was likely wrong. That said, there *is* some
> correlation between "lots of memory" and "high-end machine", and that in
> turn tends to correlate with "fast disk", so I don't think the percentage
> approach is really *horribly* wrong.
>
> The main issue with the percentage is that we do export them as such
> through the /proc/ interface, and they are easy to change and understand.
> So changing them to amounts is non-trivial if you also want to support the
> old interfaces - and the advantage isn't obvious enough that it's a
> clear-cut case.
I wonder if it would be useful if the limit was 'data we can write out
in 1 (configurable) second. This would typically mean either one 50mb
(depending on disk) contigous block or 100-200 scattered blocks (since
the typical disk latency is about 5-10ms).
Has anyone tried something like this?
Mark
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-27 19:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-27 7:59 [ext3][kernels >= 2.6.20.7 at least] KDE going comatose when FS is under heavy write load (massive starvation) Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 8:33 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-27 9:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 10:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 11:59 ` Marat Buharov
2007-04-27 12:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-27 13:50 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-27 12:39 ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-27 15:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 19:31 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-04-27 19:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 20:05 ` Hua Zhong
2007-04-27 20:12 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2007-04-27 20:12 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-28 5:37 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-28 5:45 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-28 21:57 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-28 22:38 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-27 20:29 ` Gabriel C
2007-04-27 20:45 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-27 20:54 ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-28 8:45 ` Matthias Andree
2007-04-27 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 17:38 ` Alex Tomas
2007-05-03 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 6:18 ` Alex Tomas
2007-05-04 6:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 6:57 ` Alex Tomas
2007-05-04 7:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 7:39 ` Alex Tomas
2007-05-04 8:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-28 8:44 ` Matthias Andree
2007-04-28 20:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-28 21:12 ` Lee Revell
2007-04-29 20:49 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-29 21:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-27 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 15:41 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-27 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 16:24 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-27 19:43 ` Marko Macek [this message]
2007-04-27 18:31 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-27 19:09 ` Zan Lynx
2007-04-27 22:07 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-27 19:27 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-28 8:51 ` Matthias Andree
2007-04-28 8:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-28 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-28 16:56 ` Paolo Ornati
2007-04-27 19:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 20:06 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-27 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-28 4:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-28 6:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-28 7:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-28 7:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-28 6:32 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-28 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-28 16:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 17:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-30 6:57 ` Jens Axboe
2007-04-28 17:55 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-30 6:56 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-02 6:53 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-02 7:36 ` Mike Galbraith
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