From: Stephen Clark <Stephen.Clark@seclark.us>
To: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ext3][kernels >= 2.6.20.7 at least] KDE going comatose when FS is under heavy write load (massive starvation)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:45:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <463260E3.8030209@seclark.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0704271246550.9964@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>
>
>>It's true that this is a "feature" of ext3 with data=ordered (the default),
>>but I suspect the same thing is now true in reiserfs too.
>>
>>
>
>Oh, well.. Journalling sucks.
>
>I was actually _really_ hoping that somebody would come along and tell
>everybody that this whole journal-logging is stupid, and that it's just
>better to not ever re-write blocks on disk, but instead write to new
>blocks with version numbers (and not re-use old blocks until new versions
>are stable on disk).
>
>
>
That sort of sounds like something NCR used to do in the mainframe days
files had
generation numbers, and multiple generations of the files were kept
around with the
OS automatically removing the older ones.
>There was even somebody who did something like that for a PhD thesis, I
>forget the details (and it apparently died when the thesis was presumably
>accepted ;).
>
> Linus
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-27 7:59 [ext3][kernels >= 2.6.20.7 at least] KDE going comatose when FS is under heavy write load (massive starvation) Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 8:33 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-27 9:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 10:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 11:59 ` Marat Buharov
2007-04-27 12:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-27 13:50 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-27 12:39 ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-27 15:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 19:31 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-04-27 19:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 20:05 ` Hua Zhong
2007-04-27 20:12 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2007-04-27 20:12 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-28 5:37 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-28 5:45 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-28 21:57 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-28 22:38 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-27 20:29 ` Gabriel C
2007-04-27 20:45 ` Stephen Clark [this message]
2007-04-27 20:54 ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-28 8:45 ` Matthias Andree
2007-04-27 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 17:38 ` Alex Tomas
2007-05-03 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 6:18 ` Alex Tomas
2007-05-04 6:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 6:57 ` Alex Tomas
2007-05-04 7:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 7:39 ` Alex Tomas
2007-05-04 8:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-28 8:44 ` Matthias Andree
2007-04-28 20:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-28 21:12 ` Lee Revell
2007-04-29 20:49 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-29 21:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-27 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 15:41 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-27 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 16:24 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-27 19:43 ` Marko Macek
2007-04-27 18:31 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-27 19:09 ` Zan Lynx
2007-04-27 22:07 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-27 19:27 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-28 8:51 ` Matthias Andree
2007-04-28 8:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-28 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-28 16:56 ` Paolo Ornati
2007-04-27 19:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 20:06 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-27 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-28 4:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-28 6:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-28 7:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-28 7:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-28 6:32 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-28 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-28 16:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 17:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-30 6:57 ` Jens Axboe
2007-04-28 17:55 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-04-30 6:56 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-02 6:53 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-02 7:36 ` Mike Galbraith
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