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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	patches@x86-64.org, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patches] [PATCH] [21/22] x86_64: Extend bzImage protocol for relocatable bzImage
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:50:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46363A68.6080201@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m14pmz8bbb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> I have several ideas on how we can make this work but first I have to
> ask what is it that you are trying to accomplish?
>   

The requirements are:

   1. the domain builder needs to get various information about the
      guest kernel by inspecting its ELF notes
   2. we start the kernel in 32-bit mode with paging enabled, in ring 1
   3. the guest kernel needs various pieces of runtime information from
      the hypervisor about its runtime environment

At the moment we just load a bare vmlinux kernel with a xen-specific
entrypoint, so 1 and 2 are easy.  3 is achieved by having the domain
builder start the kernel with %esi pointing to a Xen info structure
which tells the kernel what it needs to know.

That works OK for a kernel which is compiled to run under Xen and can't
run in any other environment, but now that we can generate a single
kernel which can run in any number of different environments, its
unfortunate that we still need multiple variants of the kernel image.

Clearly the Xen domain builder needs to be extended to deal with a
bzImage format kernel directly, so we can use the same actual kernel
image for native and Xen booting.  Since we're changing the domain
builder anyway, I can change the details of how it works so long as the
3 requirements can still be met.

So, I have no problem in also building a boot protocol info structure,
and passing that in %esi, so long as I can store a pointer to the
Xen-specific info as well.  Some info will be duplicated, like the
initrd location, but that's OK.

I'd already reserved a Xen bootloader ID specifically with this in mind;
all I really need is a place where I can stash the pointer.

I think I'd prefer to have the domain builder decompress/relocate the
kernel from the bzImage and start it directly, rather than have it
decompress/relocate itself, but I'm not really set on that.  It depends
on how well it can deal with having paging enabled and being in ring 1. 
Looks like it might just be a matter of starting up with "enough" memory
mapped.

So the biggest unknown is where to put the Xen ELF notes.

    J

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-30 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-28 17:58 [PATCH] [0/22] x86 candidate patches for review II: 64bit relocatable kernel Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [1/22] x86_64: dma_ops as const Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [2/22] x86_64: Assembly safe page.h and pgtable.h Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [3/22] x86_64: Kill temp boot pmds Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [4/22] x86_64: Clean up the early boot page table Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [5/22] x86_64: Fix early printk to use standard ISA mapping Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [6/22] x86_64: modify copy_bootdata to use virtual addresses Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [7/22] x86_64: cleanup segments Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [8/22] x86_64: Add EFER to the register set saved by save_processor_state Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [9/22] x86_64: 64bit PIC SMP trampoline Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [10/22] x86_64: Get rid of dead code in suspend resume Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [11/22] x86_64: wakeup.S rename registers to reflect right names Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:58 ` [PATCH] [12/22] x86_64: wakeup.S misc cleanups Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [13/22] x86_64: 64bit ACPI wakeup trampoline Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [14/22] x86_64: Modify discover_ebda to use virtual addresses Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [15/22] x86_64: Remove the identity mapping as early as possible Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [16/22] x86: Move swsusp __pa() dependent code to arch portion Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [17/22] x86_64: do not use virt_to_page on kernel data address Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [18/22] x86: __pa and __pa_symbol address space separation Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [19/22] x86_64: Relocatable Kernel Support Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [20/22] x86_64: build-time checking Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [21/22] x86_64: Extend bzImage protocol for relocatable bzImage Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 18:07   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-28 18:24     ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 20:18     ` [patches] " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-28 20:38       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-28 20:46         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-29  4:50           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-04-28 20:39       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-29  7:24       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-29 15:11         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30  3:03           ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-30  4:38             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-30  5:03               ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-30  5:25                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 16:03                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-30 16:47                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 15:34                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  3:38                   ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-01  3:45                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01  3:59                       ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-01  4:00                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01  4:50                         ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-01  5:28                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01  6:05                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  3:57                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  5:37                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-01  6:11                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  7:34                         ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-01  8:03                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-30 18:50           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-04-30 22:10             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 22:42               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-30 22:51                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-30 23:10                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 23:16                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-30 23:35                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  3:39                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01  2:48                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02  9:31             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-05-02 15:16               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-02 20:51                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 21:01                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-02 21:09                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 21:39                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-02 21:59                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 23:03                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-03  4:50                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-03  6:42                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-03  7:05                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-03 13:23                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-03 16:23                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 16:41                               ` yhlu
2007-05-08 17:18                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-08 17:33                                   ` yhlu
2007-05-08 18:51                                     ` yhlu
2007-05-08 19:01                                       ` yhlu
2007-05-08 19:11                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-08 22:00                                         ` yhlu
2007-05-08 22:07                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 22:35                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-08 22:41                                               ` yhlu
2007-05-08 23:13                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-09  1:44                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-09  2:23                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-09  3:30                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-09  4:52                                                         ` yhlu
2007-05-09  5:04                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-09  5:08                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-09  5:48                                                               ` yhlu
2007-05-09  5:54                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-09  5:55                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-09 10:52                                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-09 16:31                                                                     ` yhlu
2007-05-09 19:21                                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-10  0:52                                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-09  7:58                                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-05-09 11:21                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-10  0:55                                                           ` yhlu
2007-05-09  2:44                                                     ` yhlu
2007-05-09  3:33                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-09  4:42                                         ` yhlu
2007-05-09  4:58                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-08 17:24                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-08 17:34                                   ` yhlu
2007-05-03  2:01                       ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-02 21:17                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-02 21:24                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 21:36                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-29 17:51         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-29 18:10           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30  4:41         ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-28 17:59 ` [PATCH] [22/22] x86_64: Move cpu verification code to common file Andi Kleen

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