From: Davi Arnaut <davi@haxent.com.br>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 03:54:19 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4638359B.6050500@haxent.com.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46383218.4020406@cosmosbay.com>
Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Davi Arnaut a écrit :
>> Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>> Davi Arnaut a écrit :
>>>> Asynchronously wait for FUTEX_WAKE operation on a futex if it still contains
>>>> a given value. There can be only one futex wait per file descriptor. However,
>>>> it can be rearmed (possibly at a different address) anytime.
>>>>
>>>> The pollable futex approach is far superior (send and receive events from
>>>> userspace or kernel) to eventfd and fixes (supercedes) FUTEX_FD at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Building block for pollable semaphores and user-defined events.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Davi E. M. Arnaut <davi@haxent.com.br>
>>>>
<snip>
>>>> +
>>>> +struct futex_event {
>>>> + union {
>>>> + void __user *addr;
>>>> + u64 padding;
>>>> + };
>>>> + int val;
>>>> +};
>>> Hum... Here we might have a problem with 64 bit futexes, or private futexes
>>>
>>> So I believe this interface is not well defined and not expandable: in case of
>>> future additions to futexes, an old application compiled with an old pollable
>>> futex_event type might fail.
>>>
>> Hmm, how about:
>>
>> struct futex_event {
>> union {
>> void __user *addr;
>> u64 padding;
>> };
>> union {
>> int val;
>> s64 val64;
>> };
>> /* whatever room is necessary for future improvements */
>> };
>>
>> I haven't been keeping up with 64 bit or private futexes. What else
>> could probably go wrong?
>
> Well, that's the point : This interface is like an ioctl() one : pretty bad if
> not properly designed :)
I was merely mirroring the futex syscall arguments for FUTEX_WAIT. Will
those change? I hope not :)
> You probably need to stick one field containing one command or version number,
> something like that.
I'm a bit skeptical that we need versioning for such a simple operation
(command) as FUTEX_WAIT that takes an address and a value.
>
>
> struct futex_event {
> int type;
> union {
> void __user *addr;
> u64 padding;
> };
> union {
> int val;
> s64 val64;
> };
> };
>
> #define FUTEX_EVENT_SHARED32 1
> #define FUTEX_EVENT_SHARED64 2
> #define FUTEX_EVENT_PRIVATE32 (128|1)
> #define FUTEX_EVENT_PRIVATE64 (128|2)
I will take a look at the private futexes patches before commenting further.
> ...
>
> Also, you should take care of alignements constraints (a 32bit user program
> might run on a 64bit kernel)
>
Compat code? or futex alignements constraints?
--
Davi Arnaut
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-02 6:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-02 5:22 [patch 00/22] pollfs: filesystem abstraction for pollable objects Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 01/22] pollfs: kernel-side API header Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 02/22] pollfs: file system operations Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 03/22] pollfs: asynchronously wait for a signal Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 04/22] pollfs: pollable signal Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 05/22] pollfs: pollable signal compat code Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 06/22] pollfs: export the plsignal system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 07/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 08/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 09/22] pollfs: pollable hrtimers Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-02 23:00 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 10/22] pollfs: export the pltimer system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 11/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 12/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 13/22] pollfs: asynchronous futex wait Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 6:16 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 6:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 6:54 ` Davi Arnaut [this message]
2007-05-02 7:11 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 7:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 7:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 8:08 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 8:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 16:39 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 16:59 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 17:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 17:29 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 17:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 18:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-03 13:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-03 18:24 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-03 19:03 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-03 22:14 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-04 15:28 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-04 19:15 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-04 19:20 ` 2.6.20.4 / 2.6.21.1 AT91SAM9260-EK oops Ryan Ordway
2007-05-04 23:38 ` [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-05 18:54 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 7:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-06 19:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-06 20:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 21:57 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-07 5:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-07 5:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 17:37 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 17:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 18:05 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-03 13:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 12:20 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 12:39 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 16:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 17:05 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 15/22] pollfs: export the plfutex system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 16/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 17/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 18/22] pollfs: check if a AIO event ring is empty Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 19/22] pollfs: pollable aio Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 20/22] pollfs: export the plaio system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 21/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 22/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 6:05 ` [patch 00/22] pollfs: filesystem abstraction for pollable objects Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 17:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 17:47 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 18:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 18:50 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 19:42 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 20:11 ` Davi Arnaut
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