From: Davi Arnaut <davi@haxent.com.br>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 15:05:50 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4638D2FE.3060706@haxent.com.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a36005b50705021049k44881c5er1b9e61d64618ae1e@mail.gmail.com>
Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> On 5/2/07, Davi Arnaut <davi@haxent.com.br> wrote:
>> NO! Every single waiter of the _file descriptor_ is waked, not of the
>> futex.
>
> And how is this better? In this world of yours a program must have
> one file descriptor for each single futex which is used like this *per
> thread*. There can be hundreds, thousands of threads. And there can
> be large numbers of futexes, too.
>
The usage cases of yours are quite different from mine. We don't use a
single file descriptor to to manage various resources. The worker threads
are _not going_ to have a file descriptor, _only_ the event dispatching
(poll)
thread. The worker threads are just going to increase the futex value and
call FUTEX_WAKE in case the previous value was 0.
A pollable futex is even more useful for _single_ threaded programs that
don't want to go into lengthy hacks to monitor events coming from the
outside
world.
I, at least, don't want to port my epoll applications to yet another event
notification facility.
> This is not going to fly. You reach the file descriptor limit just
> with this. And this in many processes on the system.
>
>
>> davi@karmic:~/git/linux-2.6$ find patches/ -name *.patch |grep -v
>> syscall | wc -l
>> 10
>>
>> davi@karmic:~/git/linux-2.6$ find patches/ -name *.patch |grep -v
>> syscall |grep futex
>> patches/pollfs-futex-async-wait.patch
>> patches/pollfs-futex.patch
>
> I don't know what you want to show here. You 10 new syscalls? You
> have two patches alone modifying futexes? And 22 patches in total.
> That's not "a lot"?
No. 12 patches are for i386/x86_64 obligatory syscall housekeeping. I don't
want to sound rude, but have you actually looked at the patches?
--
Davi Arnaut
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-02 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-02 5:22 [patch 00/22] pollfs: filesystem abstraction for pollable objects Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 01/22] pollfs: kernel-side API header Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 02/22] pollfs: file system operations Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 03/22] pollfs: asynchronously wait for a signal Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 04/22] pollfs: pollable signal Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 05/22] pollfs: pollable signal compat code Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 06/22] pollfs: export the plsignal system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 07/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 08/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 09/22] pollfs: pollable hrtimers Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-02 23:00 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 10/22] pollfs: export the pltimer system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 11/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 12/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 13/22] pollfs: asynchronous futex wait Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 6:16 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 6:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 6:54 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 7:11 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 7:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 7:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 8:08 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 8:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 16:39 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 16:59 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 17:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 17:29 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 17:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 18:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-03 13:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-03 18:24 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-03 19:03 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-03 22:14 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-04 15:28 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-04 19:15 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-04 19:20 ` 2.6.20.4 / 2.6.21.1 AT91SAM9260-EK oops Ryan Ordway
2007-05-04 23:38 ` [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-05 18:54 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 7:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-06 19:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-06 20:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 21:57 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-07 5:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-07 5:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 17:37 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 17:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 18:05 ` Davi Arnaut [this message]
2007-05-03 13:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 12:20 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 12:39 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 16:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 17:05 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 15/22] pollfs: export the plfutex system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 16/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 17/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 18/22] pollfs: check if a AIO event ring is empty Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 19/22] pollfs: pollable aio Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 20/22] pollfs: export the plaio system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 21/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 22/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 6:05 ` [patch 00/22] pollfs: filesystem abstraction for pollable objects Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 17:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 17:47 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 18:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 18:50 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 19:42 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 20:11 ` Davi Arnaut
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