From: Ting Yang <tingy@cs.umass.edu>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v8
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 23:18:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46395495.3020802@cs.umass.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070502174829.GX19966@holomorphy.com>
> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 11:06:34PM +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
>
>> There is also p->wait_runtime which is taken into account when
>> calculating p->fair_key. So if p3 had waiting in runqueue for long
>> before, it can get to run quicker than 10ms later.
>>
>
> Virtual time is time from the task's point of view, which it has spent
> executing. ->wait_runtime is a device to subtract out time spent on the
> runqueue but not running from what would otherwise be virtual time to
> express lag, whether deliberately or coincidentally. ->wait_runtime
> would not be useful for EEVDF AFAICT, though it may be interesting to
> report.
I just want to point out that ->wait_runtime, in fact, stores the lag of
each task in CFS, except that it is also used by other things, and
occasionally tweaked (heuristically ?). Under normal cases the sum of
lags of all active tasks in such a system, should be a constant 0. The
lag information is equally important to EEVDF, when some tasks leave the
system (becomes inactive) carrying certain amount of lag. The key point
here is that we have to spread the lag (either negative or positive) to
all remaining task, so that the fairness of the system is preserved. I
thinks CFS implementation does not seems to handle this properly.
I am running out time today :-( I will write an email about CFS -v8
tomorrow, describing 2 issues in CFS I found related to this.
Ting
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-03 3:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-01 21:22 [patch] CFS scheduler, -v8 Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 2:57 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-02 5:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-02 5:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-02 10:05 ` Bill Huey
2007-05-02 10:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 17:36 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-02 17:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-02 18:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 18:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-02 19:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 19:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 2:48 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-03 3:18 ` Ting Yang [this message]
2007-05-03 10:19 ` Bill Huey
2007-05-02 23:41 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-02 18:42 ` Li, Tong N
2007-05-02 19:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 3:07 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-03 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 14:26 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-03 15:19 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-03 15:02 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-02 6:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-05-02 6:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 8:03 ` Gene Heskett
2007-05-02 8:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-05-02 8:48 ` Gene Heskett
2007-05-02 8:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 8:51 ` Gene Heskett
2007-05-02 7:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-05-02 8:11 ` Gene Heskett
2007-05-02 10:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 9:08 ` Balbir Singh
2007-05-02 10:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 10:59 ` Balbir Singh
2007-05-02 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-05 8:31 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-05 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-06 8:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-06 8:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-06 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-06 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-07 11:30 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-07 15:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-07 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 0:35 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-08 9:05 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-09 0:01 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-10 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-11 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-11 19:18 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-11 19:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-11 20:53 ` Kevin Bowling
2007-05-07 11:09 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-07 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-07 18:39 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-05-07 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 7:34 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-08 9:54 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-05-08 10:27 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-08 5:36 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-02 12:58 ` Mark Lord
2007-05-02 12:58 ` Vegard Nossum
2007-05-02 16:41 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-03 8:20 Zoltan Boszormenyi
2007-05-03 13:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 13:29 ` Damien Wyart
2007-05-03 14:53 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-03 15:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 18:44 ` Li, Tong N
2007-05-03 19:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-07 14:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-07 20:54 ` Li, Tong N
2007-05-07 0:04 ` Bill Davidsen
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