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From: Ting Yang <tingy@cs.umass.edu>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v7
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 12:00:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <463A0734.6090408@cs.umass.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070503151741.GC1812@elte.hu>

Hi, Ingo

    I wrote that email in a hurry, therefore might not explain the 
problem clearly. However I do think there is a problem for this part, 
after I carefully read the code again. Now I want to try again :-) 
Hopefully, this time I will do a right job.

Starting from the following code:

+    if (__delta > niced_granularity(rq, curr, granularity))
+        resched_task(curr);


Suppose, "curr" has nice value -10, then curr->load_shift = 15.  
Granularity passed into this function is
fixed 2,000,000 (for CFS -v8). Let's just divide everything by 1,000,000 
for simplicity, say granularity used is 2.

Now, we look at how granularity is rescaled:

+    int load_shift = p->load_shift;
+
+    if (load_shift == SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT)
+        return value;
+
+    return (value << load_shift) >> SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT;

it returns (2  << 15) >> 10 = 2 * 32 = 64, therefore __delta has to be 
larger than 64 so that the current process can be preempted.

Suppose, "curr" executes for 1 tick, an timer interrupts comes. It 
executes about 1,000,000 (roughly speaking, since timer interrupts come 
1000/second). Since we divided everything by 1,000,000, it becomes 1 in 
this discussion. After this execution, how much will "curr" increments 
its fair_key?
It is weighted: 1/32.

then how much time is needed for "curr" to build a 2 * 32 difference on 
fair_key, with every 1 ms it updates fair_key by 1/32 ?    2 * 32 * 32 !
On the other hand, for a task  has nice value 1, the amount work needed 
to preemption is 2 * 1 *1.
If we have only 2 task running, p1 with nice value -10, p2 with nice 
value 0.
           p1 get cup share:  (32 * 32) / (32 * 32 + 1 *1)
           p2 get cpu share:  ( 1* 1) / (32 * 32 + 1 * 1)

I do see a quadratic effect here. Did I missed anything? sorry to bother 
you again, I just want to help :-)

Thanks a lot !

Ting





  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-03 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-30  5:20 [patch] CFS scheduler, -v7 Al Boldi
2007-05-03  7:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03  8:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 11:16     ` Al Boldi
2007-05-03 12:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 13:49         ` Al Boldi
2007-05-03  8:42   ` Al Boldi
2007-05-03 15:02   ` Ting Yang
2007-05-03 15:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 16:00       ` Ting Yang [this message]
2007-05-03 19:48         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 19:57           ` William Lee Irwin III
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-28 15:25 Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 19:20 ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-28 19:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 23:42     ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-29  7:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29 12:37         ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-29 15:58           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29 22:29             ` Dennis Brendel
2007-04-30 14:38             ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-28 19:27   ` S.Çağlar Onur
2007-04-29 17:28 ` Prakash Punnoor
2007-05-04 13:05   ` Prakash Punnoor
2007-04-30 16:29 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-30 18:30 ` Balbir Singh

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