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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] boot bzImages under paravirt
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 11:22:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <463B79E6.8000908@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m16478qyxx.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Gujin seems to have a near-zero user community, so if they have to rev
>> their code it wouldn't be a big deal (the author keeps trying to push
>> some crack-smoking "Gujin native" patches into the kernel, too), 
>> breaking ELILO would hurt anyone using Intel Macs.
>>     
>
> I'm thinking we just make the code start.
> startup_32:
> 	movl	%cs, %eax
>         testl   $3, %eax
>         jnz     1f
>   

I'm not really happy about using this as a way to distinguish paravirt
from non-paravirt in general.  At some point we're going to be running
paravirt kernels in ring0 within a VT/SVM container - but they'll still
be completely paravirtualized kernels.

I think a better approach is to just do it purely based on the boot
params platform field.  Ie, something along the lines of:

	if (boot_params.version < new_enough)
		goto native_boot;
	else {
		for (int i = 0; i < nplatforms; i++)
			if (boot_params.platform == platforms[i].id)
				goto *platforms[i].startup
		panic();
	}


> But that won't work if we want to support relocatability.
> Because we can't load a gdt if we don't know where we are.
>
> To find out where we are we need %ss and %ds, at which point
> we might as well assume we have %es to.
>   

Yes, we won't make it far without ss and ds, and while we could avoid
string instructions, you'd have to be a pretty short-sighted bootloader
author to set ss and ds without also setting es.

> So be it then.  The next rev of the boot protocol gets to be partially
> incompatible, and we just assume that %cs, %ds, %es, %ss meet our
> basic requirements.  I'm pretty certain from what I saw only Gujin
> is going to suffer  :(
>   

I missed what Gujin does wrong here?


    J

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-04 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-04 12:59 [RFC PATCH 1/3] Replace paravirt_probe with "platform type" boot header field Rusty Russell
2007-05-04 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] lguest: Boot with virtual == physical to get closer to native Linux Rusty Russell
2007-05-04 13:07   ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] boot bzImages under paravirt Rusty Russell
2007-05-04 14:38     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 14:55       ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-04 15:49         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 15:15       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-04 15:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 16:13           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-04 16:43             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 16:57             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 17:07               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 17:30                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 18:22                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-05-04 18:48                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 18:55                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-04 19:21                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 16:46         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 17:25           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-04 17:27             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 17:36             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 17:44               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 18:25               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-04 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] Replace paravirt_probe with "platform type" boot header field Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 14:18   ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-04 14:23     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 15:52       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 16:48         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 17:13           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 18:30             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 18:55               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 19:10                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 19:14                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 19:31                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 19:19                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04 15:10     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-04 15:53     ` H. Peter Anvin

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