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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] doc: volatile considered evil
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 15:29:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4640F9C4.8050804@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.99.0705081510370.25865@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

David Rientjes wrote:
> It is analogous with a sequence point for ia64.  But, as you mentioned, it 
> is ia64 specific so your comment about "asm volatile" constructs not being 
> reordered is always appropriate outside of ia64 specific code but may not 
> apply to ia64 if we ever compiled with -mvolatile-asm-stop.  If we do not
> compile with that option, the behavior is unspecified.  I don't think 
> we'll be adding -mvolatile-asm-stop support any time soon so your warning 
> certainly is appropriate for all code at this time.
>   

Sounds like it's referring to micro-architectural reordering, which is
distinct from compiler reordering.  In other words, even if you
specified "-mvolatile-asm-stop" I would assume that the compiler could
still reorder the asm statements.  Am I right, or should I read more
into the manual description than it actually says?

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-08 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-01  5:08 [RFC, PATCH 2/4] SoC base drivers: ASIC3 SoC hardware definitions Paul Sokolovsky
2007-05-01  6:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 10:27   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-01 12:04     ` Paul Sokolovsky
2007-05-01 12:21       ` Jamey Hicks
2007-05-08 19:14   ` [RFC/PATCH] doc: volatile considered evil Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 19:18     ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 20:00       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-05-08 20:20         ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 23:13           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 23:54             ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09  0:00               ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 21:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 21:10           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-05-08 21:16           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-08 21:26             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 21:25               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-08 21:20       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 21:27         ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 21:37           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 21:59             ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 22:04               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 22:19                 ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 22:29                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-05-08 22:35                     ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 23:09           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 21:29         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 20:07     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-08 23:34       ` [PATCH] " Randy Dunlap
2007-05-09  0:06         ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09  2:08           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-09  2:38             ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09  3:15               ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-09  9:21               ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09  9:26                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 13:31                   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09 10:25                 ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09 13:36                   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09 18:41                     ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09 20:23                       ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09 20:25                         ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09 22:47                         ` Rob Landley
2007-05-09  8:50         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 15:52           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-09 19:04             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-09  1:47     ` [RFC/PATCH] " Jonathan Corbet
2007-05-09  9:43       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-05-09 19:34         ` Satyam Sharma

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