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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Satoru Takeuchi <takeuchi_satoru@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Nathan Lynch <nathanl@austin.ibm.com>,
	Joel Schopp <jschopp@austin.ibm.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	paulmck@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [BUG] cpu-hotplug: Can't offline the CPU with naughty	realtime processes
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 10:47:50 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46411A36.2050609@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ejlqg77m.wl%takeuchi_satoru@jp.fujitsu.com>

Satoru Takeuchi wrote:
> At Tue, 8 May 2007 22:18:50 +0530,
> Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:16:06PM +0900, Satoru Takeuchi wrote:
>>
>>>Sometimes I wonder at prio_array. It has 140 entries(from 0 to 139),
>>>and the meaning of each entry is as follows, I think.
>>>
>>>+-----------+-----------------------------------------------+
>>>| index     | usage                                         |
>>>+-----------+-----------------------------------------------+
>>>| 0 - 98    | RT processes are here. They are in the entry  |
>>>|           | whose index is 99 - sched_priority.           |
>>
>>>From sched.h:
>>
>>/*
>> * Priority of a process goes from 0..MAX_PRIO-1, valid RT
>> * priority is 0..MAX_RT_PRIO-1, and SCHED_NORMAL/SCHED_BATCH
>> * tasks are in the range MAX_RT_PRIO..MAX_PRIO-1.
>>
>>so shouldn't the index for RT processes be 0 - 99, given that
>>MAX_RT_PRIO = 100?
> 
> 
> However `man sched_priority' says...
> 
> 
>        Processes scheduled with SCHED_OTHER or SCHED_BATCH  must
>        be assigned the  static  priority  0. Processes  scheduled
>        under  SCHED_FIFO  or SCHED_RR can have a static priority
>        in the range 1 to 99. The  system calls
>        sched_get_priority_min() and sched_get_priority_max() can
>        be used to find out the valid priority range for a
>        scheduling policy in a portable way on all POSIX.1-2001
>        conforming systems.
> 
> 
> and see the kernel/sched.c ...
> 
> 
>   int sched_setscheduler(struct task_struct *p, int policy,
>                          struct sched_param *param)
>   {
>           ...
>           /*
>            * Valid priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR are
>            * 1..MAX_USER_RT_PRIO-1, valid priority for SCHED_NORMAL and
>            * SCHED_BATCH is 0.
>            */
>           if (param->sched_priority < 0 ||
>               (p->mm && param->sched_priority > MAX_USER_RT_PRIO-1) ||
>               (!p->mm && param->sched_priority > MAX_RT_PRIO-1))
>                   return -EINVAL;
>           if (is_rt_policy(policy) != (param->sched_priority != 0))
>                   return -EINVAL;
>           ...
>   }
> 
> 
> So, if I want to set the rt_prio of a kernel_thread, we can't use this
> entry unless set t->prio to 99 directly. I don't know whether we are
> allowed to write such code bipassing sched_setscheduler(). In addition,
> even if kernel_thread can use this index , I can't understand it's usage.
> It can only be used by kernel, but its priority is LOWER than any real
> time thread.
> 
> If the rule can be changed to the following...
> 
> +-----------+-----------------------------------------------+
> | index     | usage                                         |
> +-----------+-----------------------------------------------+
> | 0         | RT processes are here. Only kernel can use    |
> |           | this entry.                                   |
> +-----------+-----------------------------------------------+
> | 1 - 99    | RT processes are here. They are in the entry  |
> |           | whose index is 99 - sched_priority.           |
> +-----------+-----------------------------------------------+
> | 100 - 139 | Ordinally processes are here. They are in the |
> |           | entry whose index is (nice+120) +/- 5         |
> +-----------+-----------------------------------------------+
> 
> ... there will be an entry only used by kernel and its priority is HIGHER
> than any user process, and I'll get happy :-)

We've seen the same problem with other stop_machine_run sites in the kernel.
module remove was one.

Reserving the top priority slot for stop machine (and migration thread, I
guess) isn't a bad idea.

-- 
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-09  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-07 10:10 [BUG] cpu-hotplug: Can't offline the CPU with naughty realtime processes Satoru Takeuchi
2007-05-07 10:47 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-07 11:02   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-07 12:39     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-07 10:55 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-07 10:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-05-07 13:42 ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-08  2:41   ` Satoru Takeuchi
2007-05-08  3:02     ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-08  3:29       ` Satoru Takeuchi
2007-05-08  4:04         ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-08  4:10         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-08  7:16           ` Satoru Takeuchi
2007-05-08 16:48             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-09  0:40               ` Satoru Takeuchi
2007-05-09  0:47                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-05-09  6:31                   ` Satoru Takeuchi
2007-05-09  8:56                   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-11  8:49       ` [PATCH 1/2] Fix stop_machine_run problem with naughty real time process Satoru Takeuchi
2007-05-11  9:18         ` Satoru Takeuchi
2007-05-11  8:49       ` [PATCH 2/2] cpu hotplug: fix ksoftirqd termination on cpu hotplug with naughty realtime process Satoru Takeuchi

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