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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Preempt of BKL and with tickless systems
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:19:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46438C54.20101@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75b66ecd0705081701n414c29f7r74b0e4836798393a@mail.gmail.com>

Lee Revell wrote:
> On 5/8/07, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
>> I think I have a reasonable grip on the voluntary and full preempt
>> models, can anyone give me any wisdom on the preempt of the BKL? I know
>> what it does, the question is where it might make a difference under
>> normal loads. Define normal as servers and desktops.
> 
> This was introduced by Ingo to solve a real problem that I found,
> where some codepath would hold the BKL for long enough to introduce
> excessive scheduling latencies - search list archive for details.  But
> I don't remember the code path (scrolling the FB console?  VT
> switching? reiser3?  misc. ioctl()s?).  Basically, taking the BKL
> disabled preemption which caused long latencies.
> 
> It's certainly possible that whatever issue led to this was solved in
> another way since.
> 
Anything is possible. I feel that using voluntary + bkl is probably good 
for most servers, forced preempt for desktop, although it really doesn't 
seem to do much beyond voluntary.

Thanks for the clarification.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-10 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-08 21:06 Preempt of BKL and with tickless systems Bill Davidsen
2007-05-09  0:01 ` Lee Revell
2007-05-10 21:19   ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-05-21  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar

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