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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful" document
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:54:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4643947C.10105@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25493.1178744744@lwn.net>

Jonathan Corbet wrote:

> +There are still a few rare situations where volatile makes sense in the
> +kernel:
> +
> +  - The above-mentioned accessor functions might use volatile on
> +    architectures where direct I/O memory access does work.  Essentially,
> +    each accessor call becomes a little critical section on its own and
> +    ensures that the access happens as expected by the programmer.
> +
> +  - Inline assembly code which changes memory, but which has no other
> +    visible side effects, risks being deleted by GCC.  Adding the volatile
> +    keyword to asm statements will prevent this removal.
> +
> +  - The jiffies variable is special in that it can have a different value
> +    every time it is referenced, but it can be read without any special
> +    locking.  So jiffies can be volatile, but the addition of other
> +    variables of this type is frowned upon.  Jiffies is considered to be a
> +    "stupid legacy" issue in this regard.

It would seem that any variable which is (a) subject to change by other 
threads or hardware, and (b) the value of which is going to be used 
without writing the variable, would be a valid use for volatile.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-10 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-09 21:05 [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful" document Jonathan Corbet
2007-05-09 21:45 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-05-09 22:31   ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-09 22:47     ` Jesper Juhl
2007-05-09 23:20       ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-09 22:05 ` Heikki Orsila
2007-05-09 22:19   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-09 22:35 ` Scott Preece
2007-05-10 16:14 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-05-10 19:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-10 22:00   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-10 21:54 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-05-16  9:30 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
     [not found] <fa.UIDGHS72acFv9jKylmdQQwWcXPA@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.fKNBJtZJWOQthlLjc1TDfY6jCLc@ifi.uio.no>
2007-05-12 18:32   ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-13 16:30     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-05-13 23:26       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-13 23:53         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-14 14:10           ` Bill Davidsen

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