From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Satyam Sharma <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Stezenbach <js@linuxtv.org>,
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
Heikki Orsila <shdl@zakalwe.fi>,
jimmy bahuleyan <knight.camelot@gmail.com>,
Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful", take 3
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 22:34:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <464551D5.2050709@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a781481a0705112021u7b6d32fcxb6318d7e2443c970@mail.gmail.com>
Satyam Sharma wrote:
>
>> + - Pointers to data structures in coherent memory which might be
>> modified
>> + by I/O devices can, sometimes, legitimately be volatile. A ring
>> buffer
>> + used by a network adapter, where that adapter changes pointers to
>> + indicate which descriptors have been processed, is an example of
>> this
>> + type of situation.
>
> is a legitimate use case for volatile is still not clear to me (I
> agree with Alan's
> comment in a previous thread that this seems to be a case where a memory
> barrier would be applicable^Wbetter, actually). I could be wrong here, so
> would be nice if Peter explains why volatile is legitimate here.
>
> Otherwise, it's fine with me.
>
I don't see why Alan's way is necessarily better; it should work but is
more heavy-handed as it's disabling *all* optimization such as loop
invariants across the barrier.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-12 5:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-11 17:36 [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful", take 3 Jonathan Corbet
2007-05-11 21:25 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-05-12 3:21 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-12 4:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-12 5:34 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-05-12 5:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-12 6:15 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-12 6:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-12 7:02 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-12 7:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-12 7:28 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-12 7:53 ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-12 11:51 ` Heikki Orsila
2007-05-12 18:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-12 7:22 ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-12 7:33 ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-05-12 7:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-12 19:17 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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2007-05-13 0:00 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-05-14 3:37 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-17 23:51 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-18 3:13 ` Satyam Sharma
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