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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Satyam Sharma <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Stezenbach <js@linuxtv.org>,
	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	Heikki Orsila <shdl@zakalwe.fi>,
	jimmy bahuleyan <knight.camelot@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful", take 3
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 22:41:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46455394.6020302@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464551D5.2050709@zytor.com>

H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
> I don't see why Alan's way is necessarily better; it should work but is
> more heavy-handed as it's disabling *all* optimization such as loop
> invariants across the barrier.
> 

To expand on this further: the way this probably *should* be handled,
Linux-style, is with internally-volatile versions of le32_to_cpup() and
friends.  That obeys the concept that the volatility should be
associated with an operation, not a data structure, and, being related
to an I/O device, should have its endianness explicitly declared.

Right now those macros don't exist, however.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-12  5:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-11 17:36 [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful", take 3 Jonathan Corbet
2007-05-11 21:25 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-05-12  3:21 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-12  4:29   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-12  5:34   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-12  5:41     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-05-12  6:15     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-12  6:21       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-12  7:02         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-12  7:13           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-12  7:28             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-12  7:53             ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-12 11:51               ` Heikki Orsila
2007-05-12 18:06               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-12  7:22           ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-12  7:33             ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-05-12  7:45               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-12 19:17         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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     [not found]     ` <8jT7y-39x-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-13  0:00       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-05-14  3:37         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-17 23:51           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-18  3:13             ` Satyam Sharma

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