From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Francesco Pretto <ceztko@gmail.com>,
Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Weird hard disk noise on shutdown (bug #7674)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:14:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <464C1D11.8040305@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200705161948.56497.rob@landley.net>
Rob Landley wrote:
>> Yeap, definitely a bug in the kernel and we're trying to fix it. Just
>> for the record, we have _always_ issued FLUSH CACHE, so there hasn't
>> been and won't be any data loss problem. The data loss problem was
>> mentioned as why we can't do things completely inside kernel without
>> updating userland shutdown(8) which issues STANDBYNOW.
>
> Ok, so the change is to get shutdown to _stop_ doing something stupid
> (spinning down the disk without first flushing the cache), and the correct
> thing for shutdown to do is keep its' mitts off the thing and let the kernel
> power down the darn hardware?
Yeah, about right. Because kernel can't skip FLUSH CACHE and FLUSH
CACHE can spin up the disk back again. Oh well, some disks even spin
back up on STANDBYNOW to spin down again. The big fat warning and all
compat mess are to avoid introducing regression and urge shutdown(8)
update such that it does nothing.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-17 9:15 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <fa.YHt2nIlQmoW5r2enmTSzsaySwH4@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-22 2:43 ` Weird hard disk noise on shutdown (bug #7674) Robert Hancock
2007-02-23 20:35 ` Francesco Pretto
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2007-03-02 23:43 ` Dan Gilliam
2007-05-04 19:12 ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-04 20:39 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-06 18:19 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-06 18:24 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-14 17:32 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-14 20:46 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-15 6:59 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-15 13:16 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-15 13:47 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-15 21:08 ` Dave Jones
2007-05-16 5:29 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-16 9:15 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-16 11:38 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 23:47 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17 9:12 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 11:41 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 23:48 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17 0:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-17 3:05 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17 3:39 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-17 15:04 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-18 7:16 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-18 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-18 18:27 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-17 9:14 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-05-16 12:47 ` Stephen Clark
2007-05-16 13:49 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-16 23:52 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-16 11:38 ` Tejun Heo
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2007-02-23 0:25 ` Robert Hancock
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2007-02-22 14:34 ` Robert Hancock
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[not found] ` <fa.G4k+9fbJDE0N5pygu22mRYU6gfE@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-22 6:27 ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-22 7:11 ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-22 11:33 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-02-21 22:15 Francesco Pretto
2007-02-21 23:55 ` Alan
2007-02-22 1:01 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-02-22 13:53 ` Alan
2007-02-22 15:22 ` Rolf Offermanns
2007-02-22 22:47 ` Francesco Pretto
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