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From: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
To: Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v12
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:41:39 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <464FA753.7040206@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b647ffbd0705190627x4ff15f3cw19bc292e47257287@mail.gmail.com>

Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
> On 18/05/07, Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> [...]
>> One thing that might work is to jitter the load balancing interval a
>> bit.  The reason I say this is that one of the characteristics of top
>> and gkrellm is that they run at a more or less constant interval (and,
>> in this case, X would also be following this pattern as it's doing
>> screen updates for top and gkrellm) and this means that it's possible
>> for the load balancing interval to synchronize with their intervals
>> which in turn causes the observed problem.  A jittered load balancing
>> interval should break the synchronization.  This would certainly be
>> simpler than trying to change the move_task() logic for selecting which
>> tasks to move.
> 
> Just an(quick) another idea. Say, the load balancer would consider not
> only p->load_weight but also something like Tw(task) =
> (time_spent_on_runqueue / total_task's_runtime) * some_scale_constant
> as an additional "load" component (OTOH, when a task starts, it takes
> some time for this parameter to become meaningful). I guess, it could
> address the scenarios your have described (but maybe break some others
> as well :) ...
> Any hints on why it's stupid?

Well that is the kind of thing I was hoping to avoid for the reasons of 
complexity.  I think that the actual implementation would be more 
complex than it sounds and possibly require multiple runs down the list 
of moveable tasks which would be bad for overhead.

Basically, I don't think that the problem is serious enough to warrant a 
complex solution.  But I may be wrong about how complex the 
implementation would be.

Peter
-- 
Peter Williams                                   pwil3058@bigpond.net.au

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."
  -- Ambrose Bierce

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-20  1:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-13 15:38 [patch] CFS scheduler, -v12 Ingo Molnar
2007-05-16  2:04 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-16  8:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-16 23:42     ` Peter Williams
     [not found]   ` <20070516063625.GA9058@elte.hu>
2007-05-17 23:45     ` Peter Williams
     [not found]       ` <20070518071325.GB28702@elte.hu>
2007-05-18 13:11         ` Peter Williams
2007-05-18 13:26           ` Peter Williams
2007-05-19 13:27           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-05-20  1:41             ` Peter Williams [this message]
2007-05-21  8:29             ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-21  8:57               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-21 12:08                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-22 16:48                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-05-22 20:15                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 20:49                     ` Chris Friesen
2007-05-21 15:25           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-05-21 23:51             ` Peter Williams
2007-05-22  4:47               ` Peter Williams
2007-05-22 12:03                 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-24  7:43                   ` Peter Williams
2007-05-24 16:45                     ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-24 23:23                       ` Peter Williams
2007-05-29 20:45                         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-29 23:54                           ` Peter Williams
2007-05-30  0:50                             ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-30  2:18                               ` Peter Williams
2007-05-30  4:42                                 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-30  6:28                                   ` Peter Williams
2007-05-31  1:49                                   ` Peter Williams
2007-05-22 11:52               ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-05-23  0:10                 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-18  0:18 ` Bill Huey
2007-05-18  1:01   ` Bill Huey
2007-05-18  4:13   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-18  7:31   ` Ingo Molnar

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