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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: first little problem with private futexes
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 21:13:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46509DE8.3060308@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a36005b50705201201y724ac400u5581df86c62d9de2@mail.gmail.com>

Ulrich Drepper a écrit :
> On 5/20/07, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> wrote:
>> > 1.  do nothing, always use the shared futexes.  Not very attractive IMO
>>
>> Why do you find this non attractive ?
>>
>> How is it performance critical ?
> 
> You should know better than any other that the problem is not that the
> problem itself is the only one affected.  If threads terminate all
> other programs and threads are affected since the global locks for the
> shared futexes are needed.  That's the case I'm concerned about.  It's
> not really about a single app creating many many threads over and over
> again.  It's about many apps which do use threads (and that number
> will have to rise) starts and stop threads at a reasonable rate.  It's
> just one more unnecessary point of contact between concurrently
> running apps.

Well, current private futex code still use global locks (one common hash table 
were all waited futexes are queued, private or shared)

'Only' mmap_sem and inode/mm refcounter inc/dec are avoided.

My proposal of having separate namespace was hold, in order to get the 
'private futexes' accepted in kernel.

So for the moment, I am not sure glibc should try to optimize CLEARTID operation.



      reply	other threads:[~2007-05-20 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-20 18:39 first little problem with private futexes Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-20 18:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-20 19:01   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-20 19:13     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]

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