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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Miguel Figueiredo <elmig@debianpt.org>
Cc: Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
	Linux Kernel M/L <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 13:55:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46532E8A.4030900@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46507E1D.6030002@debianpt.org>

Miguel Figueiredo wrote:
> Ray Lee wrote:
>> On 5/20/07, Miguel Figueiredo <elmig@debianpt.org> wrote:
>>> As I tryied myself kernels 2.6.21, 2.6.21-cfs-v13, and 2.6.21-ck2 on the
>>> same machine i found *very* odd those numbers you posted, so i tested
>>> myself those kernels to see the numbers I get instead of talking about
>>> the usage of kernel xpto feels like.
>>>
>>> I did run glxgears with kernels 2.6.21, 2.6.21-cfs-v13 and 2.6.21-ck2
>>> inside Debian's GNOME environment. The hardware is an AMD Sempron64 3.0
>>> GHz, 1 GB RAM, Nvidia 6800XT.
>>> Average and standard deviation from the gathered data:
>>>
>>> * 2.6.21:               average = 11251.1; stdev = 0.172
>>> * 2.6.21-cfs-v13:       average = 11242.8; stdev = 0.033
>>> * 2.6.21-ck2:           average = 11257.8; stdev = 0.067
>>>
>>> Keep in mind those numbers don't mean anything we all know glxgears is
>>> not a benchmark, their purpose is only to be used as comparison under
>>> the same conditions.
>>
>> Uhm, then why are you trying to use them to compare against Bill's
>> numbers? You two have completely different hardware setups, and this
>> is a test that is dependent upon hardware. Stated differently, this is
>> a worthless comparison between your results and his as you are
>> changing multiple variables at the same time. (At minimum: the
>> scheduler, cpu, and video card.)
> 
> The only thing i want to see it's the difference between the behaviour 
> of the different schedulers on the same test setup. In my test -ck2 was 
> a bit better, not 200% worse as in Bill's measurements. I don't compare 
> absolute values on different test setups.
> 
Since I didn't test ck2 I'm sure your numbers are unique, I only tested 
the sd-0.48 patch set. I have the ck2 patch, just haven't tried it 
yet... But since there are a lot of other things in it, I'm unsure how 
it relates to what I was testing.
>>
>>> One odd thing i noticed, with 2.6.21-cfs-v13 the gnome's time applet in
>>> the bar skipped some minutes (e.g. 16:23 -> 16:25) several times.
>>>
>>> The data is available on:
>>> http://www.debianPT.org/~elmig/pool/kernel/20070520/
>>>
>>>
>>> How did you get your data? I am affraid your data it's wrong, there's no
>>>   such big difference between the schedulers...
>>
>> It doesn't look like you were running his glitch1 script which starts
>> several in glxgears parallel. Were you, or were you just running one?
> 
> No i'm not, i'm running only one instance of glxgears inside the GNOME's 
> environment.
> 
If you test the same conditions as I did let me know your results.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-22 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-19 20:02 Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48 Bill Davidsen
2007-05-19 20:22 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-20  0:44   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-20  6:12     ` Michael Gerdau
2007-05-20  6:30       ` Ray Lee
2007-05-20  6:59         ` Michael Gerdau
2007-05-20  7:20           ` Ray Lee
2007-05-20  6:55     ` Ray Lee
2007-05-21 18:27     ` Matt Keenan
2007-05-19 20:36 ` Diego Calleja
2007-05-19 20:55   ` Ray Lee
2007-05-19 23:21   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-05-20 16:29 ` Miguel Figueiredo
2007-05-20 16:44   ` Ray Lee
2007-05-20 16:58     ` Miguel Figueiredo
2007-05-20 17:19       ` Ray Lee
2007-05-22 17:55       ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-05-22 20:01         ` Miguel Figueiredo
2007-05-23  0:28           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-23 13:10             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-23 18:29               ` Miguel Figueiredo
2007-05-23 20:45                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-23 21:03                   ` Miguel Figueiredo
2007-05-24  0:36             ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-23  4:06               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-23  5:23               ` Michael Gerdau
2007-05-23  7:58                 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-05-23  8:21                   ` Bill Huey
2007-05-23 18:22                   ` Ian Romanick
2007-05-23 18:43                     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-05-23 17:22                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-23 16:59               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-22 17:22   ` Bill Davidsen

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