From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S966817AbXEVTEY (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S966755AbXEVTEO (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:14 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:54239 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S966754AbXEVTEM (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:12 -0400 Message-ID: <46533EA8.7020602@garzik.org> Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:08 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg KH CC: Chuck Ebbert , linux-kernel , Chris Wright Subject: Re: [stable] Wanted: Allow adding new device IDs during the -stable cycle References: <46533314.10206@redhat.com> <20070522184733.GA9357@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20070522184733.GA9357@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.8 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.3 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Greg KH wrote: > What's wrong with the current sysfs way of adding new device ids without > touching the kernel? Devices described above was the very reason we > added that functionality, so users would not have to constantly update > their kernel. The distros provide userspace tools that enable these ids > to be added and at boot time, everything "just works" properly. I haven't found a single distro that (a) makes it trivial to add PCI IDs at install time, and then (b) ensures those PCI IDs remain persistent for each boot. We are not at all to the "just works" stage yet. > So, because of that, I don't really see a need to be adding new device > ids to the -stable tree. Maybe you are just not seeing all the developers that keep bringing this up?? Really, it is just silly to think that one-line PCI IDs patches will cause any harm at all, and it should be self-evident that there is clear potential to HELP Linux users. That's why we're all here, right? Jeff