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From: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: richard.griffiths@windriver.com,
	Richard Griffiths <res07ml0@verizon.net>,
	Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.21] cramfs: add cramfs Linear XIP
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:51:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4653F264.1030807@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070522154905.1d7e8a2e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> But we'd expected and hoped that flash-based XIP would be able to use
> the existing xip infrastructure, in mm/filemap_xip.c.  Not possible?
Thanks for the heads up Andrew. Reading the cramfs patch, I've found a 
lot of similarities between the current mainline xip stack and this 
nice piece of work. I also observed interresting differences:

The current xip stack does use the block device abstraction added with 
an extra direct memory access operation. The cramfs patch does not 
abstract between the memory segment and the file system, it rather 
uses an address as mount parameter.
Both methods can coexist, and a file system that does not use the 
block device abstraction may still provide get_xip_page address space 
operation and benefit from the xip stack infrastructure. Each method 
makes sense in the context of the corresponding file systems.

The current xip stack relies on having struct page behind the memory 
segment. This causes few impact on memory management, but occupies 
some more memory. The cramfs patch chose to modify copy on write in 
order to deal with vmas that don't have struct page behind.
So far, Hugh and Linus have shown strong opposition against copy on 
write with no struct page behind. If this implementation is acceptable 
to the them, it seems preferable to me over wasting memory. The xip 
stack should be modified to use this vma flag in that case.

This implementation extends cramfs while the current xip stack extends 
ext2. I would love to see a cramfs implementation based on 
filemap_xip, choice is always a good thing. To me, it looks like this 
work can be modified to use filemap_xip.

so long,
Carsten

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-23  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-22 22:09 [PATCH 2.6.21] cramfs: add cramfs Linear XIP Richard Griffiths
2007-05-22 22:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-22 22:58   ` Richard Griffiths (wrs)
2007-05-23  7:51   ` Carsten Otte [this message]
2007-05-23 15:25     ` Richard Griffiths (wrs)
2007-05-24  6:46       ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-23 17:21     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-05-24  6:57       ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-29  5:10     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-02  0:48       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-02  8:42         ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-04 13:32           ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-06 11:13             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 11:33               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-06 15:17                 ` Richard Griffiths
2007-06-06 15:50                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-06 16:09                     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 16:07                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 16:16                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-06 18:26                     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-07 19:37                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-07 19:40                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-07 20:27                           ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08  7:39                           ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-07 21:11                         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-07 21:15                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-07 22:59                             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08 13:19                               ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-08 13:10                             ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-06 16:15                 ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-06 16:23                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-06 18:40                     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 22:59                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-07 17:07                     ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-07 19:38                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-07 20:34                         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08  7:28                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08 16:02                             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08  7:17                         ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08  7:26                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08  7:50                             ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08  7:57                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08  7:59                                 ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08  8:04                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08 16:05                                     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08 16:09                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08 16:11                                         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08 16:15                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08 17:51                                             ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-08 19:04                                               ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08 19:06                                                 ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08 19:36                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-09  7:55                                                   ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-09 10:37                                                     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-08 23:02                                                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-07 21:19                       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 12:05               ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-06 19:01                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-07  1:00                   ` Justin Treon
2007-06-13  0:11             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-14 13:57               ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-14 16:53                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-15  9:22                   ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-15 11:49                     ` Heiko Carstens
2007-06-15 17:30                       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-18  7:38                         ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-15 13:53       ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-15 21:46         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-05-23  8:21 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-05-24 20:22 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-05-24 20:52   ` Richard Griffiths
2007-05-24 21:21     ` Jared Hulbert
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2007-06-09  8:09 ` Carsten Otte

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