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From: Thierry Merle <thierry.merle@free.fr>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, video4linux-list@redhat.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] V4L: stk11xx, add a new webcam driver
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 07:32:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <465BBAFB.30906@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <465B49EB.4080204@free.fr>



Thierry Merle a écrit :
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab a écrit :
>>>> As Luca pointed, if we add conversion for one driver, we should add 
>>>> for
>>>> the rest.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, it would be better if Jiri sends the decoding and the 
>>>> rescaling
>>>> stuff as a patch to v4l2-apps/lib, starting the API decoding library.
>>>> Once we have a library, we can ask the userspace developers to use it
>>>> for the formats not recognized by their userspace apps.
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> I think it would be better to evaluate existing solutions (eg. libpw).
>>>     
>>
>> Agreed. Volunteers?
>>
>>   
> Hi Mauro and Markus,
> Just to summ up what I understood we need:
>
> What do we need in userspace, only for v4l (dvb is not concerned):
> - colorspace translations
> - filters that be done in hardware if the selected hardware can, 
> otherwise software plugin
> - decompression algorithm like stk11xx or usbvision (the decompression 
> algorithm is in kernelspace since it is of linear complexity but shall 
> be moved to userspace)
>
> Using pwlib will not mean that application developers will use pwlib 
> to decode v4l driver outputs.
> C bindings are much more popular than C++ bindings and do not prevent 
> object oriented design.
> Application developers implement their own codecs.
> As an example, every application do deinterlacing internally or not...
> Application developers will probably not use pwlib v4l extensions 
> because they will prefer to write adapted codecs for their framework.
>
> Much more important for me is to see the actual specification of the 
> needed v4l extensions points, with advice/participation of 
> application/codec developers.
As an example, we could empacket frames with a header containing 
audio/video format as it is done for MPEG streams.
Is it possible without breaking the current ABI?
Do application developers would cope with that?
>
> Thierry
>


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-29  5:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-24 14:01 [PATCH 1/1] V4L: stk11xx, add a new webcam driver Jiri Slaby
2007-05-24 14:24 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-24 15:07   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-28 15:21     ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-24 23:07   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-25  8:22     ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-25  8:30       ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-24 17:38 ` Diego Calleja
2007-05-24 18:01   ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-05-25  8:19     ` Stefan Richter
     [not found]       ` <4af2d03a0705250127j3d05cd6bkb114cad0e6ecb449@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-25  9:50         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-28 15:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-28 15:14   ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-28 16:28     ` Luca Risolia
2007-05-28 16:42       ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-28 18:57     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-28 19:17       ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-28 20:11         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-28 21:30           ` Thierry Merle
2007-05-29  5:32             ` Thierry Merle [this message]
2007-05-29 14:25               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-29 19:04                 ` Thierry Merle
2007-05-29 19:31                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-31 20:43                     ` Thierry Merle
2007-06-01 23:10                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-06-02  9:00                         ` Thierry Merle
2007-06-04 18:55                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-06-15 21:08                             ` Jiri Slaby
2007-06-16 11:46                               ` Thierry Merle
2007-06-16 12:07                                 ` Jiri Slaby
     [not found]                               ` <200706190941.47459.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-06-19  7:44                                 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-30 19:44   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-06-01 23:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-26 14:09 Jiri Slaby
2007-08-27 22:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28  5:33   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-08-28  5:36     ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28  5:41       ` Jiri Slaby
2007-08-28  6:35 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2007-11-06  7:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-06 10:48   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-11-07 17:57     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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