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From: Matt Keenan <tank.en.mate@gmail.com>
To: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately?
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:15:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4662869A.9030700@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706021610210.19116@p34.internal.lan>

Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
>>> I feel, having a silent/transparent workaround is not a good idea.
>>> With that
>>
>> If enough RAM is chopped off users will notice. They tend to complain
>> when they miss RAM.  I don't like panic very much because for many
>> users it will be a show stopper (even when they are not blessed
>> with "quiet" boots like some distributions do)
>>
>> The message in dmesg could be also emphasized a bit with a little
>> ASCII art (but no <blink> tag in there)
>>
>> The problem I'm more worried about is if the system will be really
>> stable --- could it be that the memory controller is still
>> misconfigured and cause other stability issues? (we've had such
>> cases in the past). Also I'm not sure we can handle the case of
>> the MTRR wrong not at the end of memory but at the hole sanely.
>>
>> -Andi
>>
>
> So far I have been booting with mem=8832M and have run stress/loaded
> the memory subsystem pretty good; what other tests should I run?
>
> It'd be nice if we could pose some sort of solution/warning for the
> future so other people do not have to experience the same problems.
>
> What are the next steps?
>
Wouldn't it be possible for the e820/MTRR set up code detect the problem
and suggest a mem=xxxx that would fix the problem (while also
complaining that the BIOS is broken)?

Matt


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-03  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-01 18:14 Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:10 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 19:17   ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:19   ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:21     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:14   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 20:19     ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 20:24       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 20:26         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 21:07     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:19       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 21:35         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:41         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-02  1:05           ` Venki Pallipadi
2007-06-02  1:15             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-02  8:43               ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-02  9:22             ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-02 20:11               ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-03  9:15                 ` Matt Keenan [this message]
2007-06-04 15:40                   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-04 15:48                     ` Ray Lee
2007-06-04 15:49                       ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 16:01                         ` Ray Lee
2007-06-04 15:54                       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-04 18:24                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 18:13           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-04 18:22             ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 19:08               ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 19:17               ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-04 19:18               ` Alan Cox
2007-06-04 21:01                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-05  0:59                   ` Yinghai Lu
2007-06-05  1:38                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-05  9:46                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-05 13:18                         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-05 17:20                         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-07  8:47                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 19:23               ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 19:24                 ` Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? II Andi Kleen
2007-06-05  0:54                 ` Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? Yinghai Lu

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