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From: Robert de Rooy <robert.de.rooy@gmail.com>
To: Joel.Becker@oracle.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: ThinkPad T41 - Strange USB 2.0 behaviour
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:42:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46687BD3.1020603@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070607205015.GD6528@ca-server1.us.oracle.com>

Joel Becker wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:23:19PM +0200, Robert de Rooy wrote:
>   
>> On my ThinkPad T41 USB 2.0 behaves strange. Most USB 2.0 devices, refuse 
>> to function as such. Under Windows I get a message that I should plug 
>> the device into a USB 2.0 port (but it continues to function as USB 
>> 1.1), while under Linux I need to manually unload ehci-hcd before I can 
>> access the device.
>>
>> The strange thing is that these USB 2.0 devices used to work just fine, 
>> and still do on other machines. In addition I have one USB 2.0 memory 
>> key that still works fine (both under Windows and Linux).
>>
>> Now to be honest, I think this is a hardware problem, as I have had 
>> another T41p before that also suddenly no longer liked USB 2.0 devices, 
>> and if you search with Google you find other ThinkPad T41 users 
>> complaining about similar behaviour.
>>     
>
> 	Hardware problem.  You need a new system board.  I had this
> problem on my T41, devices would sometimes work, sometimes not
> (depending on the reboot).  If I plugged in a USB 1.1 hub, then pluged
> the memory reader into the hub, it would always work at 1.1 speeds.
> 	New system board, USB 2.0 works just fine.
>
> Joel
>   
Yes I figured it was a hardware problem, but that was not really the 
point I was trying to raise ;). I would like, if possible for Linux to 
automatically fallback to USB 1.1 like Windows does (preferably with a 
suitable warning).

Regarding getting the systemboard replaced, this machine is already 
scheduled for replacement, and I should be getting a new one in the next 
few weeks. But other users apparently have been having similar problems, 
and might not want to get the (presumably out-of-warranty) systemboard 
replaced.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-07 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-07 20:23 ThinkPad T41 - Strange USB 2.0 behaviour Robert de Rooy
2007-06-07 20:50 ` Joel Becker
2007-06-07 21:42   ` Robert de Rooy [this message]
2007-06-07 21:58     ` Joel Becker
2007-06-08  9:12     ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-08 10:09       ` Robert de Rooy
2007-06-08 10:17         ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-08 14:27           ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2007-06-08 22:19             ` Robert de Rooy
2007-06-09 21:20               ` Alan Stern
2007-06-09 23:43                 ` Robert de Rooy
2007-06-10 15:43                   ` Alan Stern
2007-06-11 22:42                     ` Robert de Rooy
2007-06-11 21:23                       ` Alan Stern
2007-06-12  5:57                         ` Robert de Rooy
2007-06-12 14:54                           ` Alan Stern

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