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From: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
To: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ext3fs: umount+sync not enough to guarantee metadata-on-disk
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:43:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46687C05.1080408@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46682E4E.1070303@redhat.com>

Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> On 06/07/2007 11:41 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>    mount /var/lib/mythtv -oremount,ro
>>>    sync
>>>    umount /var/lib/mythtv
>> Did this succeed?  If the application is still truncating that file, the
>> umount should have failed.
> 
> Shouldn't sync should wait for truncate to finish?

The part that gets me here, and that others might be missing,
is that we are not waiting for ftruncate at this point.

We're waiting for unlink.  The application that was doing ftruncate
in tiny little doses has been sent a kill-9 signal, so what should
be happening now (confirmed by disk activity LEDs) is the file should
just be getting deleted the same as if we did "rm bigfile" on it.

And I kind of expected sync or remount,ro to complete *after* the
unlink finishes..

Oh well.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-07 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-07 13:44 ext3fs: umount+sync not enough to guarantee metadata-on-disk Mark Lord
2007-06-07 15:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-07 16:01   ` Mark Lord
2007-06-07 17:09     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-06-10 18:27     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-12 15:15       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-06-14 19:01       ` Phillip Susi
2007-06-07 16:11   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-07 19:45     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-07 21:38       ` Mark Lord
2007-06-07 22:04         ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-08 14:51           ` Mark Lord
2007-06-09  2:58       ` Mark Lord
2007-06-11 11:14         ` Jan Kara
2007-06-11 22:47           ` Mark Lord
2007-06-12 10:00             ` Jan Kara
2007-06-07 21:43     ` Mark Lord [this message]
2007-06-10 18:31       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-11 11:05       ` Jan Kara
2007-06-11 22:46         ` Mark Lord

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