From: Benjamin Gilbert <bgilbert@cs.cmu.edu>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux@horizon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] [CRYPTO] Add optimized SHA-1 implementation for x86_64
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:45:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <466DA660.4090102@cs.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73lkeqvgwb.fsf@bingen.suse.de>
Andi Kleen wrote:
> Benjamin Gilbert <bgilbert@cs.cmu.edu> writes:
>> +#define EXPAND(i) \
>> + movl OFFSET(i % 16)(DATA), TMP; \
>> + xorl OFFSET((i + 2) % 16)(DATA), TMP; \
>
> Such overlapping memory accesses are somewhat dangerous as they tend
> to stall some CPUs. Better probably to do a quad load and then extract.
OFFSET(i) is defined as 4*(i), so they don't actually overlap.
(Arguably that macro should go away.)
> I haven't checked in detail if it's possible but it's suspicious you
> never use quad operations for anything. You keep at least half
> the CPU's bits idle all the time.
SHA-1 fundamentally wants to work with 32-bit quantities. It might be
possible to use quad operations for some things, with sufficient
cleverness, but I doubt it'd be worth the effort.
> Gut feeling is that the unroll factor is far too large.
> Have you tried a smaller one? That would save icache
> which is very important in the kernel.
That seems to be the consensus. I'll see if I can find some time to try
linux@horizon.com's suggestion and report back.
I don't think, though, that cache footprint is the *only* thing that
matters. Leaving aside /dev/urandom, there are cases where throughput
matters a lot. This patch set came out of some work on a hashing block
device driver in which SHA is, by far, the biggest CPU user. One could
imagine content-addressable filesystems, or even IPsec under the right
workloads, being in a similar situation.
Would it be more palatable to roll the patch as an optimized CryptoAPI
module rather than as a lib/sha1.c replacement? That wouldn't help
/dev/urandom, of course, but for other cases it would allow the user to
ask for the optimized version if needed, and not pay the footprint costs
otherwise.
--Benjamin Gilbert
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-11 19:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-08 21:42 [PATCH 0/3] Add optimized SHA-1 implementations for x86 and x86_64 Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-08 21:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] [CRYPTO] Move sha_init() into cryptohash.h Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-08 21:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] [CRYPTO] Add optimized SHA-1 implementation for i486+ Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-09 7:32 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-10 1:15 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-11 19:47 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-11 19:50 ` [PATCH] " Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-11 19:52 ` [PATCH] [CRYPTO] Add optimized SHA-1 implementation for x86_64 Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-09 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] [CRYPTO] Add optimized SHA-1 implementation for i486+ Matt Mackall
2007-06-09 20:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-09 21:34 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-10 0:33 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-10 13:59 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-10 16:47 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-10 17:33 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-11 17:39 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-11 12:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-08 21:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] [CRYPTO] Add optimized SHA-1 implementation for x86_64 Benjamin Gilbert
2007-06-11 12:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-11 19:45 ` Benjamin Gilbert [this message]
2007-06-11 20:30 ` [PATCH 0/3] Add optimized SHA-1 implementations for x86 and x86_64 Adrian Bunk
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