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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Norbert <nbrtt01@gmail.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Yunfeng Ye <yeyunfeng@huawei.com>,
	frederic@kernel.org
Subject: Re: Performance regression: thread wakeup time (latency) increased up to 3x
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 15:03:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4674203.GXAFRqVoOG@kreacher> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YW1ZjroFfmKM9HJe@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Monday, October 18, 2021 1:25:02 PM CEST Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 09:08:58PM -0700, Norbert wrote:
> 
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:43:45AM -0700, Norbert wrote:
> > > > > > Performance regression: thread wakeup time (latency) increased up to 3x.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Happened between 5.13.8 and 5.14.0. Still happening at least on 5.14.11.
> 
> > So git-bisect finally identified the following commit.
> > The performance difference came in a single step. Times were consistent with
> > my first post either the slow time or the fast time,
> > as far as I could tell during the bisection.
> > 
> > It is a bit unfortunate that this comes from an attempt to reduce OS noise.
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > commit a5183862e76fdc25f36b39c2489b816a5c66e2e5
> > Author: Yunfeng Ye <yeyunfeng@huawei.com>
> > Date:   Thu May 13 01:29:16 2021 +0200
> > 
> >     tick/nohz: Conditionally restart tick on idle exit
> > 
> >     In nohz_full mode, switching from idle to a task will unconditionally
> >     issue a tick restart. If the task is alone in the runqueue or is the
> >     highest priority, the tick will fire once then eventually stop. But that
> >     alone is still undesired noise.
> > 
> >     Therefore, only restart the tick on idle exit when it's strictly
> >     necessary.
> > 
> >     Signed-off-by: Yunfeng Ye <yeyunfeng@huawei.com>
> >     Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> >     Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> >     Acked-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> >     Link:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20210512232924.150322-3-frederic@kernel.org
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Is there anything else to do to complete this report?
> 
> So it _could_ be you're seeing increased use of deeper idle states due
> to less noise. I'm forever forgetting what the most friendly tool is for
> checking that (powertop can I think), Rafael?

You can use turbostat too.

> One thing to try is boot with idle=halt and see if that makes a
> different.
> 
> Also, let me Cc all the people involved.. the thread starts:
> 
>   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/035c23b4-118e-6a35-36d9-1b11e3d679f8@gmail.com
> 





  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-22 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-15  7:43 Performance regression: thread wakeup time (latency) increased up to 3x Norbert
2021-10-15  8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-15  9:36   ` Norbert
2021-10-15 14:04     ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-16  4:08       ` Norbert
2021-10-18 11:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-19  1:56           ` Norbert
2021-10-19  7:01             ` Norbert
2021-11-07 15:56               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-11-08 15:56                 ` Norbert
2021-10-22 13:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2021-10-24  5:09             ` Norbert
2021-11-02  1:35               ` Norbert

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