From: Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@bull.net>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Change in default vm_dirty_ratio
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:37:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <467A7113.7040307@bull.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070620042434.GC12096@redhat.com>
Dave Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 04:47:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > Frankly, I find it very depressing that the kernel defaults matter. These
> > things are trivially tunable and you'd think that after all these years,
> > distro initscripts would be establishing the settings, based upon expected
> > workload, amount of memory, number and bandwidth of attached devices, etc.
>
> "This is hard, lets make it someone else's problem" shouldn't ever be the
> answer, especially if the end result is that we become even more
> dependant on bits of userspace running before the system becomes useful.
>
> > Heck, there should even be userspace daemons which observe ongoing system
> > behaviour and which adaptively tune these things to the most appropriate
> > level.
> >
> > But nope, nothing.
>
> See the 'libtune' crack that people have been trying to get distros to
> adopt for a long time.
> If we need some form of adaptive behaviour, the kernel needs to be
> doing this monitoring/adapting, not some userspace daemon that may
> not get scheduled before its too late.
>
I'm wondering whether AKT I proposed a couple of months ago wouldn't be
more appropriate (provided that we find the perfect heuristics to tune
the dirty_ratio ;-) )
see thread http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/1/16/16
Regards,
Nadia
prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-21 12:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-18 21:14 Change in default vm_dirty_ratio Tim Chen
2007-06-18 23:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-19 0:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 0:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 18:41 ` John Stoffel
2007-06-19 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 22:33 ` David Miller
2007-06-19 19:57 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-20 4:24 ` Dave Jones
2007-06-20 4:44 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-20 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 8:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-20 9:14 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-20 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 9:20 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-20 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21 22:53 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-21 23:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-23 18:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-24 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-25 0:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21 16:54 ` Mark Lord
2007-06-21 16:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-20 18:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-20 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 12:37 ` Nadia Derbey [this message]
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