From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
chris@atlee.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:23:20 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4681F448.3040201@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706261016200.8675@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>Hmm, not that I have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I
>>don't know that they would encourage bad code. They are not going to
>>reduce latency under a locked section, but will improve determinism
>>in the contended case.
>
>
> xadd really generally *is* slower than an add. One is often microcoded,
> the other is not.
Oh. I found xadd to be not hugely slower on my P4, but it was a little
bit.
> But the real problem is that your "unlock" sequence is now about two
> orders of magnitude slower than it used to be. So it used to be that a
> spinlocked sequence only had a single synchronization point, now it has
> two. *That* is really bad, and I guarantee that it makes your spinlocks
> effectively twice as slow for the non-contended parts.
I don't know why my unlock sequence should be that much slower? Unlocked
mov vs unlocked add? Definitely in dumb micro-benchmark testing it wasn't
twice as slow (IIRC).
> But your xadd thing might be worth looking at, just to see how expensive
> it is. As an _alternative_ to spinlocks, it's certainly viable.
>
> (Side note: why make it a word? Word operations are slower on many x86
> implementations, because they add yet another prefix. You only need a
> byte)
No real reason I guess. I'll change it.
--
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-27 5:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-24 12:04 [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60 Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 12:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 14:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 14:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 17:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 21:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-25 9:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-14 16:04 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-15 21:25 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-16 10:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-17 21:46 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 6:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 7:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 8:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 8:20 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-19 4:22 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2007-06-18 8:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 8:34 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 9:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 9:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 10:18 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 12:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 13:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 16:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-18 17:41 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-18 18:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 18:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-20 9:36 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-20 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 7:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 15:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 16:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 16:44 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 17:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 18:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-21 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 21:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:42 ` [patch] spinlock debug: make looping nicer Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 21:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-22 7:00 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 20:36 ` [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60 Eric Dumazet
2007-06-21 19:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-26 8:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 10:56 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-26 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 5:23 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-06-27 6:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 6:20 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 20:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-27 20:17 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-27 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 23:30 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-28 0:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-28 3:03 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-07-02 7:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-21 20:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-22 8:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-23 10:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-23 16:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-25 6:45 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 20:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 7:38 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 11:09 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-22 10:38 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-24 22:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-24 22:13 ` Kok, Auke
2007-05-25 6:58 ` Ingo Molnar
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