From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
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Cc: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>, Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Hibernation Redesign
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:39:43 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4691BC0F.8050909@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4691B9A5.6060203@yahoo.com.au>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> Jeremy Maitin-Shepard wrote:
>
>> Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are stuck with refrigerator for now, and at least for hibernation,
>>>> I don't see any feasible alternative.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Feasible alternative?
>>
>>
>>
>> I posted such an alternative to the list a short time ago: hibenrating
>> from a *new* kernel space/user space that is created by loading a new
>> kernel in a manner similar to what is done for kexec crashdumps. Unlike
>> kexec crashdumps, however, it would not require reserving any memory at
>> boot, because the necessary memory (maybe 16MB or 64MB) can be freed
>> just before hibernating, and device drivers can be properly stopped so
>> that DMAs don't stomp over certain memory.
>
>
> This is the Morton method, isn't it? :) I remember it sounding like a
> very good idea when he brought it up, but I can't remember the details
> of why it was rejected or what the problems were.
Hmm, and it seems like I won't get to know without reliving what
looks like an epic flamewar starting.... here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/374889
However from a quick look it seems like the only reason is the RAM
overhead of a reserve area. It seems unfortunate that it was
dismissed so quickly because of that problem (which could be
improved).
--
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-09 4:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-08 14:37 Hibernation Redesign (was: malicious filesystems (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM) Al Boldi
2007-07-09 4:11 ` Hibernation Redesign Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 4:36 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 4:54 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 5:33 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 6:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-09 13:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 14:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 14:26 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 15:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 15:27 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:39 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-07-09 13:52 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 15:30 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-10 1:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 2:28 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-10 14:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-10 17:25 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-10 22:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-11 4:11 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 10:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 11:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 11:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 11:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 11:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 21:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 9:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 22:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 13:16 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-11 20:48 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-11 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 22:17 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 23:12 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 23:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-12 3:11 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-12 13:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 6:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-12 20:29 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-11 23:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 17:55 ` david
2007-07-11 22:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 17:45 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-10 18:20 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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