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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Satyam Sharma <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KVM <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/20] SMP: Implement on_cpu()
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:03:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4693211D.4040406@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a781481a0707091224s3fb1a2acr6d3ccce091480f61@mail.gmail.com>

Satyam Sharma wrote:
>
>
> On 7/9/07, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>> on_each_cpu() was imho always a mistake. It would have been better
>> to just fix smp_call_function() directly
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "fix" here, but if you're proposing
> that we change smp_call_function() semantics to _include_ the
> current CPU (and just run the given function locally also along
> with the others -- and hence get rid of on_each_cpu) then I'm sorry
> but I'll have to *violently* disagree with that. Please remember that
> the current CPU _must_ be treated specially in a whole *lot* of
> usage scenarios ...

I imagine that by "fix" Andi means also updating all callers.  Otherwise
he would just have said "break".

>
> On 7/9/07, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
>> > I think it would be better to fix smp_call_function_single to just
>> > handle this case transparently. There aren't that many callers yet
>> > because it is
>> > fairly new.
>
> Take the same example here -- let's say we want to send a
> "for (;;) ;" kind of function to a specified CPU. Now let's say
> by the time we've called smp_call_function_single() on that
> target CPU, we're preempted out and then get rescheduled
> on the target CPU itself. There, we begin executing the
> smp_call_function_single() (as modified by Avi here with your
> proposed changed semantics) and notice that we've landed
> on the target CPU itself, execute the suicidal function
> _locally_ *in current thread* itself, and ... well, I hope you
> get the picture.

So you disable preemption before calling smp_call_function_single().

>
> So my opinion is to go with the get_cpu() / put_cpu() wrapper
> Avi is proposing here and keep smp_call_function{_single}
> semantics unchanged. [ Also please remember that for
> *correctness*, preemption needs to be disabled by the
> _caller_ of smp_call_function{_single} functions, doing so
> inside them is insufficient. ]

That's not correct.  kvm has two places where you can call the new
smp_call_function_single() (or on_cpu()) without disabling preemption. 
There are also a couple of existing places that don't need to disable
preemption with the new semantics (see mtrr_save_state(), do_cpuid(),  
_rdmsr_on_cpu(), all in arch/i386 for examples).  In fact I think more
places can take advantage of the new semantics than not.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-10  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-08 11:54 [PATCH 00/20] KVM updates for 2.6.23, part 2 Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 01/20] KVM: Implement emulation of "pop reg" instruction (opcode 0x58-0x5f) Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 02/20] KVM: Implement emulation of instruction "ret" (opcode 0xc3) Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 03/20] KVM: Adds support for in-kernel mmio handlers Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 04/20] KVM: VMX: Fix interrupt checking on lightweight exit Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 05/20] KVM: Add support for in-kernel pio handlers Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 06/20] KVM: Fix x86 emulator writeback Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 07/20] KVM: Avoid useless memory write when possible Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 08/20] KVM: VMX: Reinitialize the real-mode tss when entering real mode Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 09/20] KVM: MMU: Fix Wrong tlb flush order Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 12:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 12:42     ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 10/20] KVM: VMX: Remove unnecessary code in vmx_tlb_flush() Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 11/20] KVM: SVM: Reliably detect if SVM was disabled by BIOS Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:43   ` Roland Dreier
2007-07-08 13:45     ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 12/20] KVM: Remove kvmfs in favor of the anonymous inodes source Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 13/20] KVM: Clean up #includes Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 14/20] HOTPLUG: Add CPU_DYING notifier Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 15/20] HOTPLUG: Adapt cpuset hotplug callback to CPU_DYING Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 16/20] HOTPLUG: Adapt thermal throttle " Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 17/20] SMP: Implement on_cpu() Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 19:06   ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-09  6:46     ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09  7:16       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-09  9:40         ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 11:28           ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 19:24             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-10  6:03               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-07-10  9:22                 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-10 11:03                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-11  0:07                     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-11  7:26                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-11  7:47                         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-11  9:43                         ` gcc + kvm + 64 bit ? confused :-/ Benjamin Budts
2007-07-11  9:47                           ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-07-11 10:54                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 18/20] KVM: Keep track of which cpus have virtualization enabled Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 19/20] KVM: Tune hotplug/suspend IPIs Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 11:54 ` [PATCH 20/20] KVM: Use CPU_DYING for disabling virtualization Avi Kivity

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