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From: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
To: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:59:35 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46932E57.7040203@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46929691.8050103@fr.ibm.com>

Cedric Le Goater wrote:
>>>>> 3. Suka assumes that pid namespace can live without proc mount
>>>>>    and tries to make the code work with pid_ns->proc_mnt change
>>>>>    from NULL to not-NULL from times to times.
>>>>>    My code calls the kern_mount() at the namespace creation and
>>>>>    thus the pid_namespace always works with proc.
>>>> shouldn't that be done by userspace instead?
>>> It can be. But when the namespace is being created there's no
>>> any userspace in it yet.
>> I'm not talking about the 'userspace inside the space'
>> I'm talking about the userspace creating the space
>> (what if I do not want to have any proc mount?)
> 
> yes, can't we let the user doing the unshare or clone decide whether
> it needs to mount /proc or not in the new pid namespace ?
> 
> that's already optional on the host. 

If we admit that the pid_ns->proc_mnt pointer can change from NULL
to some valid mount, then we should track all the possible races
with its dereference in the code. We have already caught one of 
such "tricky" places with Suka's patches and sent the OOPs to him.

My opinion is that having kern_mount-ed proc makes no discomfort but
protects from all the possible races with this pointer dereferencing.

Thanks,
Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-10  7:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-06  8:01 [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:03 ` [PATCH 1/16] Round up the API Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:18   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10  6:40     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  7:34       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-06  8:03 ` [PATCH 2/16] Miscelaneous preparations for namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:22   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10  6:42     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:04 ` [PATCH 3/16] Introduce MS_KERNMOUNT flag Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:05 ` [PATCH 4/16] Change data structures for pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:25   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10  4:32     ` sukadev
2007-07-10  7:04       ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 12:07         ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-06  8:05 ` [PATCH 5/16] Make proc be mountable from different " Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:06 ` [PATCH 6/16] Helpers to obtain pid numbers Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  5:18   ` sukadev
2007-07-10  6:49     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:07 ` [PATCH 7/16] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  4:00   ` sukadev
2007-07-10  6:47     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:07 ` [PATCH 8/16] Masquerade the siginfo when sending a pid to a foreign namespace Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  4:18   ` sukadev
2007-07-10  6:56     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:08 ` [PATCH 9/16] Make proc_flust_task to flush entries from multiple proc trees Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:08 ` [PATCH 10/16] Changes in copy_process() to work with pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-12  0:21   ` sukadev
2007-07-06  8:09 ` [PATCH 11/16] Add support for multiple kmem caches for pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:10 ` [PATCH 12/16] Reference counting of pid naspaces by pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:10 ` [PATCH 13/16] Switch to operating with pid_numbers instead of pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-25  0:36   ` sukadev
2007-07-25 10:07     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-25 19:13       ` sukadev
2007-07-26  6:42         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-06  8:11 ` [PATCH 14/16] Make pid namespaces clonnable Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:13 ` [PATCH 15/16] Changes to show virtual ids to user Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:16 ` [PATCH 16/16] Remove already unneeded memners from struct pid Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces Dave Hansen
2007-07-09  5:58   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 19:58     ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-09 12:02 ` Herbert Poetzl
2007-07-09 13:16   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 19:52     ` Herbert Poetzl
2007-07-09 20:12       ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10  6:59         ` Pavel Emelianov [this message]
2007-07-09 17:46 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-09 20:06   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-09 23:00     ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-10  7:05       ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 11:30     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 12:05       ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-07-10 13:03         ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 20:34       ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-10 13:06   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 20:33     ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-09 21:42 ` sukadev
2007-07-10  0:29 ` sukadev
2007-07-10  9:41   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 13:08   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  4:26 ` sukadev
2007-07-10  7:02   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-11  1:16 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11  6:39   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-11 15:14     ` Matt Mackall

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