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From: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
To: sukadev@us.ibm.com
Cc: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:02:51 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46932F1B.4070307@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070710042619.GC15214@us.ibm.com>

sukadev@us.ibm.com wrote:
> I am not able to find a specific patch that this might be in,
> but what happens when the child-reaper of a container exits ?

The init namespace's init becomes this init's namespace's init :)
In other words:
        if (unlikely(tsk == child_reaper(tsk))) {
                if (tsk->nsproxy->pid_ns != &init_pid_ns)
                        tsk->nsproxy->pid_ns->child_reaper = init_pid_ns.child_reaper;
                else
                        panic("Attempted to kill init!");
        }


> Do you terminate all processes in the container ? I thought
> that was discussed earlier and the consensus was to terminate
> all processes in that container and its subordinate containers.
> 
> Is that not the case now ?

That's the case, but this code works without this change. We can do
it later.

> Suka
> 
> Pavel Emelianov [xemul@openvz.org] wrote:
> | This is "submition for inclusion" of hierarchical, not kconfig
> | configurable, zero overheaded ;) pid namespaces.
> | 
> | The overall idea is the following:
> | 
> | The namespace are organized as a tree - once a task is cloned
> | with CLONE_NEWPIDS (yes, I've also switched to it :) the new
> | namespace becomes the parent's child and tasks living in the
> | parent namespace see the tasks from the new one. The numerical
> | ids are used on the kernel-user boundary, i.e. when we export
> | pid to user we show the id, that should be used to address the
> | task in question from the namespace we're exporting this id to.
> | 
> | The main difference from Suka's patches are the following:
> | 
> | 0. Suka's patches change the kernel/pid.c code too heavy.
> |    This set keeps the kernel code look like it was without
> |    the patches. However, this is a minor issue. The major is:
> | 
> | 1. Suka's approach is to remove the notion of the task's 
> |    numerical pid from the kernel at all. The numbers are 
> |    used on the kernel-user boundary or within the kernel but
> |    with the namespace this nr belongs to. This results in 
> |    massive changes of struct's members fro int pid to struct
> |    pid *pid, task->pid becomes the virtual id and so on and
> |    so forth.
> |    My approach is to keep the good old logic in the kernel. 
> |    The task->pid is a global and unique pid, find_pid() finds
> |    the pid by its global id and so on. The virtual ids appear
> |    on the user-kernel boundary only. Thus drivers and other 
> |    kernel code may still be unaware of pids unless they do not
> |    communicate with the userspace and get/put numerical pids.
> | 
> | And some more minor differences:
> | 
> | 2. Suka's patches have the limit of pid namespace nesting. 
> |    My patches do not.
> | 
> | 3. Suka assumes that pid namespace can live without proc mount
> |    and tries to make the code work with pid_ns->proc_mnt change
> |    from NULL to not-NULL from times to times.
> |    My code calls the kern_mount() at the namespace creation and
> |    thus the pid_namespace always works with proc.
> | 
> | There are some small issues that I can describe if someone is
> | interested.
> | 
> | The tests like nptl perf, unixbench spawn, getpid and others
> | didn't reveal any performance degradation in init_namespace
> | with the RHEL5 kernel .config file. I admit, that different
> | .config-s may show that patches hurt the performance, but the
> | intention was *not* to make the kernel work worse with popular
> | distributions.
> | 
> | This set has some ways to move forward, but this is some kind
> | of a core, that do not change the init_pid_namespace behavior
> | (checked with LTP tests) and may require some hacking to do 
> | with the namespaces only.
> | 
> | Patches apply to 2.6.22-rc6-mm1.
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-10  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-06  8:01 [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:03 ` [PATCH 1/16] Round up the API Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:18   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10  6:40     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  7:34       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-06  8:03 ` [PATCH 2/16] Miscelaneous preparations for namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:22   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10  6:42     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:04 ` [PATCH 3/16] Introduce MS_KERNMOUNT flag Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:05 ` [PATCH 4/16] Change data structures for pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:25   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10  4:32     ` sukadev
2007-07-10  7:04       ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 12:07         ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-06  8:05 ` [PATCH 5/16] Make proc be mountable from different " Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:06 ` [PATCH 6/16] Helpers to obtain pid numbers Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  5:18   ` sukadev
2007-07-10  6:49     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:07 ` [PATCH 7/16] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  4:00   ` sukadev
2007-07-10  6:47     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:07 ` [PATCH 8/16] Masquerade the siginfo when sending a pid to a foreign namespace Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  4:18   ` sukadev
2007-07-10  6:56     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:08 ` [PATCH 9/16] Make proc_flust_task to flush entries from multiple proc trees Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:08 ` [PATCH 10/16] Changes in copy_process() to work with pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-12  0:21   ` sukadev
2007-07-06  8:09 ` [PATCH 11/16] Add support for multiple kmem caches for pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:10 ` [PATCH 12/16] Reference counting of pid naspaces by pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:10 ` [PATCH 13/16] Switch to operating with pid_numbers instead of pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-25  0:36   ` sukadev
2007-07-25 10:07     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-25 19:13       ` sukadev
2007-07-26  6:42         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-06  8:11 ` [PATCH 14/16] Make pid namespaces clonnable Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:13 ` [PATCH 15/16] Changes to show virtual ids to user Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06  8:16 ` [PATCH 16/16] Remove already unneeded memners from struct pid Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces Dave Hansen
2007-07-09  5:58   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 19:58     ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-09 12:02 ` Herbert Poetzl
2007-07-09 13:16   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 19:52     ` Herbert Poetzl
2007-07-09 20:12       ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10  6:59         ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 17:46 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-09 20:06   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-09 23:00     ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-10  7:05       ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 11:30     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 12:05       ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-07-10 13:03         ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 20:34       ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-10 13:06   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 20:33     ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-09 21:42 ` sukadev
2007-07-10  0:29 ` sukadev
2007-07-10  9:41   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 13:08   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10  4:26 ` sukadev
2007-07-10  7:02   ` Pavel Emelianov [this message]
2007-07-11  1:16 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11  6:39   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-11 15:14     ` Matt Mackall

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