From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH][RFC] kvm-scheduler integration
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:24:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46934232.2070509@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1184054478.6005.555.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 10:19 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> Rusty Russell wrote:
>>
>>> Exactly, if we have two at the same time, they need to know about each
>>> other. Providing infrastructure which lets them avoid thinking about it
>>> is the wrong direction.
>>>
>>>
>> With a kvm-specific hook, they can't stop on each other (there can only
>> be one).
>> With a list, they don't stomp on each other.
>> With a struct preempt_ops but no list, as you propose, they can and will
>> stomp on each other.
>>
>
> I'm not talking about the actual overwriting of someone else's hook.
> I'm talking about semantic conflicts involving the actual CPU state.
>
> If I'm lazily restoring some CPU state because I know I don't use it,
> and you're lazily restoring some CPU state because you don't use it, we
> need to make sure that state doesn't intersect: ie. we need to be aware
> of each other. Only providing a single hook per task forces the second
> user to think about it (maybe that lazy state saving needs to be
> extracted into common code).
>
Well, if there's another user of VT instructions, then we certainly need
to have something central to coordinate it. No API can prevent this, at
some point we'll forced to use common sense.
>> I guess I can put it in arch specific code, but that means both i386 and
>> x86_64.
>>
>> Once we have another user we can try to generalize it.
>>
>
> The problem is that the arch hooks are in the wrong place:
>
>
Yes.
>>> Which brings us to the question: why do you want interrupts enabled?
>>>
>> The sched in hook (vcpu_load) sometimes needs to issue an IPI in order
>> to flush the VT registers from another cpu into memory.
>>
>
> OK, I'll have to go away and read the code for this.
>
> BTW, I have no problem with #ifdef KVM-style code in arch-specifics.
> It's kernel/sched.c which is jarring...
>
We don't want you jarred, do we? I'll prepare a non-kvm-specific patch
for review later on. But I can't bring myself to do a single generic
hook (it's impossible to use correctly); it will be an hlist-based thing.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-10 8:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-08 12:58 [PATCH][RFC] kvm-scheduler integration Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:41 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 13:53 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 13:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 15:13 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10 11:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 23:32 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-07-09 6:39 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10 1:09 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-10 5:53 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10 6:47 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-10 7:19 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10 8:01 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-10 8:24 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-07-11 5:50 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 19:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-09 6:41 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 8:50 ` Shaohua Li
2007-07-09 9:46 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 10:21 ` Avi Kivity
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