From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
Cc: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Hibernation Redesign
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:59:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46940F45.3090005@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871wfguq5g.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard wrote:
> I suppose that would be an interesting thing to look into. Another
> possible approach for having the kernel run in non-contiguous memory is
> to specify a memmap exactly to the kernel on the command-line, as I
> believe is done for the crashdump kernels currently.
That sounds very fragile. It would be better to extend the bootparams
to contain that information.
> I recall reading, though, that even with the relocatable
> kernel support, there are still significant alignment requirements for
> loading the kernel. In particular, I seem to recall that it is
> necessary to load an x86 kernel at maybe a 16MB boundary, and on other
> platforms the alignment requirements may be even more restrictive.
2MB for x86, I think. But that's not really an issue if you use a
P(seudo-physical) to M(achine) mapping, since you can choose any
arrangement you like for the kernel. The only restriction is that you
can't use large pages any more, but I don't think that's an issue for a
dump/hibernation kernel.
> In
> addition, I recall that the Linux boot procedure on x86 and on some
> other platforms necessarily uses certain low-address memory, like the
> first 640K, which must be backed up regardless.
>
Well, the traditional framebuffer/ISA space between 640k and 1M probably
needs to be identity mapped, but I don't think there's anything in there
which specifically needs to be save/restored (except framebuffer
contents, maybe?).
> For these reasons, it seems that it would be easiest to simply backup
> the first e.g. 16 or 64 MB of memory, and not have to worry about
> loading the kernel at a non-standard address and specifying a
> complicated exact memmap. Someone might prove me wrong, though.
>
Yes, I suppose. You're certain the old kernel's devices are completely
quiescent at that point?
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-10 23:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-08 14:37 Hibernation Redesign (was: malicious filesystems (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM) Al Boldi
2007-07-09 4:11 ` Hibernation Redesign Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 4:36 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 4:54 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 5:33 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 6:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-09 13:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 14:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 14:26 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 15:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 15:27 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:39 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 13:52 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 15:30 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-10 1:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 2:28 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-10 14:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-10 17:25 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-10 22:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-07-11 4:11 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 10:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 11:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 11:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 11:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 11:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 21:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 9:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 22:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 13:16 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-11 20:48 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-11 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 22:17 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 23:12 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 23:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-12 3:11 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-12 13:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 6:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-12 20:29 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-11 23:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 17:55 ` david
2007-07-11 22:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 17:45 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-10 18:20 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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