From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:02:23 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46941E0F.3040209@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070710233938.GT11166@waste.org>
Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 04:12:10PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>
>>>Thread Migration Preemption
>>>
>>>This patch adds the ability to protect critical sections from migration to
>>>another CPU without disabling preemption.
>>>
>>>This will be useful to minimize the amount of preemption disabling for the
>>>-rt
>>>patch. It will help leveraging improvements brought by the local_t types in
>>>asm/local.h (see Documentation/local_ops.txt). Note that the updates done
>>>to
>>>variables protected by migration_disable must be either atomic or
>>>protected from
>>>concurrent updates done by other threads.
>>>
>>>Typical use:
>>>
>>>migration_disable();
>>>local_inc(&__get_cpu_var(&my_local_t_var));
>>>migration_enable();
>>>
>>>Which will increment the variable atomically wrt the local CPU.
>>>
>>>Comments (such as how to integrate this in the already almost full
>>>preempt_count) are welcome.
>>
>>This seems like way too much stuff to add just for this type of thing. Why
>>not just disable and reenable preempt? Surely local_inc is not going to take
>>so long that disabling preemption matters.
>
>
> I like this patch a lot. Even if we don't add the underlying mechanism
> right now, adding migration_disable as an alias for preempt_disable
> will much better document quite a number of the users.
I'd have no problem with that, and it might make it easier in future to
justify a more complex scheme.
>>The task struct is not something we should just be carefree putting crap
>>into because it is seemingly free :(
>
>
> Sadly, it is free at the moment. We can only fit 3 task_structs in an order-1 SLAB,
> with lots of slop.
Well apart from more cacheline access, that's why I say seemingly free. But
actually it uses up space we may like for something else in future and/or
makes it harder to shrink down if any effort ever goes into that.
--
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-11 0:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-05 21:51 [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-05 22:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-07-06 6:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-06 14:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 14:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-07-06 15:43 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-08 9:05 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 23:39 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11 0:02 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-07-11 0:36 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11 0:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-11 1:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-06 11:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 14:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 17:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-11 4:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-23 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-06 6:02 Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-06 14:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 14:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
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