From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
To: Shawn Bohrer <shawn.bohrer@gmail.com>
Cc: Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>, Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>,
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...?
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:52:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <469CF3C6.5070907@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070717161454.GB21538@mediacenter.austin.rr.com>
On 07/17/2007 06:14 PM, Shawn Bohrer wrote:
> I can't speak for Fedora, but RHEL disables XFS in their kernel likely
> because it is known to cause problems with 4K stacks.
Okay. So is it fair to say it's largely XFS that's the problem? No problems
with LVM/MD and say plain ext? If that's the case, I believe it could be
concluded that it's not something in any sense fundamentally unfixable and
the question becomes why XFS isn't fixed...
>> Well, no. "oldconfig" works fine, and other than that, all failure modes
>> I've heard about also in this thread are MD/LVM/XFS. This is extremely
>> widely tested stuff in at least Fedora and RHEL.
>
> Again don't assume that because Fedora and RHEL have 4K stacks means
> that MD/LVM/XFS is widely tested.
No, quite, that specific combination was reported in this thread alone 3
times again, so that one's clear, but _other_ than that, I've heard of no
other failure modes.
> Additionally I think I should point out that the problems pointed out so
> far are not the only problem areas with 4K stacks. There are out of
> tree drivers to consider as well, and use cases like ndiswrapper.
Except these. Good to have pointed out, thanks, but as far as I'm concerned
both these cases do not get a say in what's default configuration for the
kernel.org kernel. They might get a say in what's removed or not removed
from that kernel but that's not under discussion at the moment (nor would I
expect it to be anytime soon if ever).
Rene.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-17 16:53 UTC|newest]
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2007-07-15 17:17 ` [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...? Bodo Eggert
2007-07-15 17:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-15 18:32 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-15 17:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 13:43 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:37 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 22:53 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:15 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-18 0:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 6:39 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 17:01 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 23:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-18 0:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:42 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-19 19:34 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19 20:04 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:55 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:07 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:12 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:27 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 2:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 16:54 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 17:17 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 0:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 0:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 1:37 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 1:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 11:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 11:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 13:02 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:31 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-01 3:53 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-08-01 8:11 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-01 10:04 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-10 4:51 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-10 4:59 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01 13:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-01 15:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10 1:03 ` Dan Merillat
2007-07-19 9:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-27 13:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:18 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 0:41 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 0:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 1:28 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:13 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:35 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:40 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 0:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 16:14 ` Shawn Bohrer
2007-07-17 16:52 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2007-07-17 17:45 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-18 0:16 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 23:45 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 0:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 10:06 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 14:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 23:19 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-19 17:20 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 17:05 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:26 ` utz lehmann
2007-07-16 23:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-17 1:00 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 14:45 ` John Stoffel
2007-07-17 23:46 ` utz lehmann
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2007-07-18 8:37 ` Nick Craig-Wood
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2007-07-18 11:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
2007-07-11 17:16 Jesper Juhl
2007-07-11 17:54 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-11 20:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-11 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2007-07-12 3:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-12 4:16 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 4:59 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-12 20:24 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 0:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 2:25 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 4:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 9:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-13 13:20 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-14 19:17 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-14 22:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:38 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-17 13:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:19 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:33 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-14 19:42 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-12 6:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:37 ` David Chinner
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