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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Jonathan Campbell <jon@nerdgrounds.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:17:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469E9180.3050906@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070718210452.GG3898@one.firstfloor.org>

Andi Kleen wrote:
>>
>> However, compressed size reductions as an abstract thing is useful for
>> this market.  Just not these particular ones.  The first thing to get
>> there is probably an LZMA-based compressor instead of gzip.
> 
> That would need more memory again.
> 

Actually, even with a 64K dictionary size (for which point the
decompression runtime memory requirements are comparable to gzip) LZMA
beats both gzip -9 and bzip2 -9 quite handily:

Reference (this is an i386 kernel):

-rwxrwxr-x 1 hpa hpa 5607558 Jul 18 15:04 vmlinux.bin*
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2658275 Jul 18 15:04 vmlinux.bin.bz2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2760849 Jul 18 15:04 vmlinux.bin.gz

Pure LZMA with dictionary sizes from 2^16 to 2^24:

-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2380983 Jul 18 15:14 d16.7z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2317458 Jul 18 15:15 d18.7z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2284746 Jul 18 15:15 d20.7z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2264001 Jul 18 15:15 d22.7z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2263185 Jul 18 15:15 d24.7z

LZMA with BCJ precompression:

-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2236070 Jul 18 15:14 d16bcj.7z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2167873 Jul 18 15:15 d18bcj.7z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2134541 Jul 18 15:15 d20bcj.7z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2112987 Jul 18 15:15 d22bcj.7z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hpa hpa 2111917 Jul 18 15:15 d24bcj.7z

> Better just write less bloated code. Perhaps mandatory bloatometer
> runs during -rc*s for kernels with minimal config with public code pig shame lists
> similar to the regression lists are useful. Anyone volunteering?
> 
> I suspect there is also much more low hanging fruit of this around.

Most likely.

> I don't think eliminating cpuid is a step forward though; that's
> just madness.

Agreed, especially given the invasiveness of the patch.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-18 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-15 21:00 Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels Jonathan Campbell
2007-07-15 21:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 22:45   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 23:12     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 23:14       ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:13         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-15 23:28           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-15 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 10:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-17 19:30   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18  2:33 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 15:55   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 18:20     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:29       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:38         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:45           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:47             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24         ` John Stoffel
2007-07-18 18:33     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-18 18:42       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:44       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 19:00       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-21 10:09         ` Oleg Verych
2007-07-18 19:41     ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 19:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 20:10       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 21:04           ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 22:17             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-07-30 17:59             ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-18 20:41         ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-20  7:27           ` Uwe Hermann
2007-07-20  7:35             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-24 14:49               ` Helge Hafting
2007-07-24 20:50                 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:56                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-25  0:55                     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:45     ` Willy Tarreau
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     [not found]     ` <8HlHq-7vR-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <8HlHr-7vR-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-07-16 13:12         ` Bodo Eggert

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