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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT (aka software PAGE_SIZE)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:53:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469EB604.50000@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070718235035.GB29728@v2.random>

On 07/19/2007 01:50 AM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 06:34:20PM +0200, Rene Herman wrote:

>> It says that highmem is not an issue due to no such thing as highmem even 
>> existing on the machines with support for larger hard pagesizes, but this 
>> wouldn't hold for soft pages. Sort of went "damn" in an x86 context upon 
>> reading that.
> 
> Correct, but I'm not really sure if it worth worrying about x86
> missing this

Larger softpages would nicely solve the "1-page stacks are sometimes small" 
issue with 4KSTACKS on x86 that was discussed in another thread just now but 
without tail packing, the pagecache slack would be too high a price to pay 
given that loads that would actually benefit from it most definitely have 
moved to 64-bit (although I'd certainly still want to try 8K as well, and 
filesystems with larger blocksizes could be nice as well).

> furthermore it would still be possible to enable it on the very x86 low
> end (with regular 4k page size) that may worry to use up to the last byte
> of ram as cache for tiny files.

But, yes, that's true, and I wonder if !HIGHMEM x86 will in fact be "very 
low end" for long considering x86-64 is now _really_ here. Many people who 
want enough memory to need highmem have probably already made the switch, 
and in the embedded world, 896M (or 1G, or 2G with a adjusted split) is 
still decidely non-low end. Yet a PVR, say, could love 64K pages for VM and 
disk...

> To me using kmalloc for this looks quite ideal.

Certainly simplest...

Rene.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-19  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-06 22:26 RFC: CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT (aka software PAGE_SIZE) Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-06 23:33 ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-06 23:52   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-17 17:47     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 19:33       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-18 13:32         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-18 16:34           ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 23:50             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19  0:53               ` Rene Herman [this message]
2007-07-24 19:44           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-25  3:20             ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-25 14:39               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-25 17:56                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-07  1:36 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-07  1:47 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-07 10:12   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-07  7:01 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-07 10:25   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-07 18:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-07 20:34   ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-08  9:52   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-08 23:20 ` David Chinner
2007-07-10 10:11   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-12  0:12     ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 11:14       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-12 14:44         ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 16:31           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-12 16:34             ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-13  7:13               ` David Chinner
2007-07-13 14:08                 ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-07-13 14:31                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-16  0:27                   ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 17:53 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-13  1:06   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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