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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Bjorn Helgaas" <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	"Sébastien Dugué" <sebastien.dugue@bull.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: commit 7e92b4fc34 - x86, serial: convert legacy COM ports to platform devices - broke my serial console
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:07:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A64DD8.6000607@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070724110946.8678d202.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> Well I queued up a tentative revert patch but then I re-read the changlog:
> 
>     x86, serial: convert legacy COM ports to platform devices
>     
>     Make x86 COM ports into platform devices and don't probe for them
>     if we have PNP.
>     
>     This prevents double discovery, where a device was found both by
>     the legacy probe and by 8250_pnp, e.g.,
>     
>         serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
>         00:02: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A

If this actually causes a problem, then the drivers are buggy.  We have 
standard APIs for checking this stuff...

Turning off legacy serial probing is just a bandaid, the resource bug is 
still there [by definition, if double-probing problems exist].


>     This also means IRDA devices without a UART PNP ID will no longer be
>     claimed by the serial driver, which might require changes in IRDA
>     drivers and administration.

This was completely unaddressed, I presume?


>     In addition to this patch, you may need to configure a setserial init
>     script, e.g., /etc/init.d/setserial, so it doesn't poke legacy UART
>     stuff back in.  On Debian, "dpkg-reconfigure setserial" with the "kernel"
>     option does this.

So this patch breaks some userspace too?


>     To force the old legacy probe behavior even when we have PNPBIOS or
>     ACPI, load the new legacy_serial module (or build 8250 static) with
>     the "legacy_serial.force" option.
> 
> So 7e92b4fc345f5b6f57585fbe5ffdb0f24d7c9b26 fixed a bunch of longstanding
> nasties while breaking Sebastien's machine (at least).
> 
> We of course want the best of both worlds here, so I'll keep the revert
> patch in -mm for a while, see what happens.  Although I can't immediately
> see any way in which this can be fixed...

I see VERY few positives, a whole lot of trouble, and a couple band-aids.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-24 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-24 14:28 commit 7e92b4fc34 - x86, serial: convert legacy COM ports to platform devices - broke my serial console Sébastien Dugué
2007-07-24 15:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-24 17:49   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-24 18:09     ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 19:07       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-07-24 18:17     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-24 19:53       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-24 20:13         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-24 20:33           ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-25  2:34             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-25  4:27               ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-25 12:55                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-25 15:57                   ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-25 16:11                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-25 16:45                       ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 20:34           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-24 20:40             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-24 20:56               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-24 21:05                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-24 22:07                   ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                     ` <p73ir88sax1.fsf@bingen.suse.de>
2007-07-25 15:48                       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-25 16:06                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-25 16:47                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-25 17:34                             ` Alan Cox
2007-07-25 17:38                           ` Alan Cox
2007-07-24 22:06                 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-25  7:45   ` Sébastien Dugué
2007-07-25 13:16     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-25 13:32       ` Sébastien Dugué
2007-07-25 13:38         ` Sébastien Dugué
2007-07-25 22:41         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-26  0:37           ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-26  1:35             ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-26  2:21             ` Shaohua Li
2007-07-26  3:33               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-27 18:16               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-27 18:38                 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-27 18:56                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-27 20:35                     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-27 20:58                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-07-27 21:05                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-27 21:53                           ` Kay Sievers
2007-07-29 17:21                           ` Kyle Moffett
2007-07-29 18:03                 ` Russell King
2007-07-26  8:08           ` Sébastien Dugué
2007-07-25 15:51       ` Yinghai Lu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-22 21:04 Linus 2.6.23-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2007-07-23 18:38 ` 2.6.23-rc1: BUG_ON in kmap_atomic_prot() Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-23 19:01   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-23 20:24     ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-23 20:40       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-23 21:01         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-23 21:11           ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-23 21:28             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-24 17:59               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-24 18:14                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26  6:09                   ` commit 7e92b4fc34 - x86, serial: convert legacy COM ports to platform devices - broke my serial console H. Peter Anvin

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