From: Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@gmx.net>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Rafał Bilski" <rafalbilski@interia.pl>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: high system cpu load during intense disk i/o
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:40:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B7BF67.8010506@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070806204853.6a693c4b@the-village.bc.nu>
Hi Alan,
Alan Cox wrote:
>>> In Your oprofile output I find "acpi_pm_read" particulary interesting.
>>> Unlike other VIA chipsets, which I know, Your doesn't use VLink to
>>> connect northbridge to southbridge. Instead PCI bus connects these two.
>>> As You probably know maximal PCI throughtput is 133MiB/s. In theory. In
>>> practice probably less.
>
> acpi_pm_read is capable of disappearing into SMM traps which will make
> it look very slow.
what is an SMM trap? I googled a bit but didn't get it...
>
>> about 15MB/s for both disks. When reading I get about 30MB/s again from
>> both disks. The other disk, the small one, is mostly idle, except for
>> writing little bits and bytes now and then. Since the problem occurs
>> when writing, 15MB/s is just too little I think for the PCI bus.
>
> Its about right for some of the older VIA chipsets but if you are seeing
> speed loss then we need to know precisely which kernels the speed dropped
> at. Could be there is an I/O scheduling issue your system shows up or
> some kind of PCI bus contention when both disks are active at once.
I am sure throughput kept diminishing little by little with many 2.6
releases, and that it wasn't a major regression on a specific version.
Unfortunately I cannot backup my words with measurements from older
kernels right now, since the system is hard to boot with such (new udev,
new glibc). However I promise I'll test in the future (probably using
old liveCDs) and come back then with proof.
>
>> I have been ignoring these performance regressions because of no
>> stability problems until now. So could it be that I'm reaching the
>> 20MB/s driver limit and some requests take too long to be served?
>
> Nope.
the reason I'm talking about a "software driver limit" is because I am
sure about some facts:
- The disks can reach very high speeds (60 MB/s on other systems with udma5)
- The chipset on this specific motherboard can reach much higher
numbers, as was measured with old kernels.
- No cable problems (have been changed), no strange dmesg output.
So what is left? Probably only the corresponding kernel module.
Thanks,
Dimitris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-06 23:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-03 16:03 high system cpu load during intense disk i/o Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-05 16:03 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-05 17:58 ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-05 18:42 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-05 20:08 ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-06 16:14 ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-06 19:18 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 19:48 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-07 0:40 ` Dimitrios Apostolou [this message]
2007-08-07 0:37 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-07 13:15 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 22:12 ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-07 0:49 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-07 9:03 ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-07 9:43 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 1:28 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-06 14:20 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 17:33 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-06 19:27 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 20:04 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 16:09 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-07 14:50 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-08 19:08 ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-09 8:17 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-10 7:06 ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-17 23:19 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
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