From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: Jerry Jiang <wjiang@resilience.com>,
"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are?
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:32:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B8D6D7.2020206@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B894E4.4010501@nortel.com>
Chris Friesen wrote:
> Chris Snook wrote:
>
>> If your architecture doesn't support SMP, the volatile keyword doesn't
>> do anything except add a useless memory fetch.
>
> I was under the impression that there were other cases as well
> (interrupt handlers, for instance) where the value could be modified
> "behind the back" of the current code.
When you're accessing data that could be modified by an interrupt handler, you
generally use a function that calls arch-specific inline assembler to explicitly
fetch it from memory.
> It seems like this would fall more into the case of the arch providing
> guarantees when using locked/atomic access rather than anything
> SMP-related, no?.
But if you're not using SMP, the only way you get a race condition is if your
compiler is reordering instructions that have side effects which are invisible
to the compiler. This can happen with MMIO registers, but it's not an issue
with an atomic_t we're declaring in real memory.
-- Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-07 20:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-01 12:49 why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are? Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-06 4:35 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-06 14:12 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 15:51 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 20:32 ` Chris Snook [this message]
2007-08-07 21:02 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 21:19 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 21:38 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:02 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 22:46 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:06 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-07 22:49 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:32 ` Zan Lynx
2007-08-08 1:31 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08 4:50 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-08 6:47 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08 8:16 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 8:27 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 20:54 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 12:37 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 12:52 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:02 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 18:04 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-08 2:27 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 5:39 ` Chris Snook
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=46B8D6D7.2020206@redhat.com \
--to=csnook@redhat.com \
--cc=cfriesen@nortel.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=rpjday@mindspring.com \
--cc=wjiang@resilience.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox