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From: "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com>
To: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
Cc: Jerry Jiang <wjiang@resilience.com>,
	"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are?
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:02:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B8DDF3.7050008@nortel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B8D6D7.2020206@redhat.com>

Chris Snook wrote:

> But if you're not using SMP, the only way you get a race condition is if 
> your compiler is reordering instructions that have side effects which 
> are invisible to the compiler.  This can happen with MMIO registers, but 
> it's not an issue with an atomic_t we're declaring in real memory.

I refer back to the interrupt handler case.  Suppose we have:

while(!atomic_read(flag))
  	continue;

where flag is an atomic_t that is set in an interrupt handler, the 
volatile may be necessary on some architectures to force the compiler to 
re-read "flag" each time through the loop.

Without the "volatile", the compiler could be perfectly within its 
rights to evaluate "flag" once and create an infinite loop.

Now I'm not trying to say that we should explictly use "volatile" in 
common code, but that it is possible that it is required within the 
arch-specific atomic_t accessors even on uniprocessor systems.

Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-07 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-01 12:49 why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are? Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-06  4:35 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-06 14:12   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 15:51     ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 20:32       ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 21:02         ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2007-08-07 21:19           ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 21:38             ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:02               ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 22:46                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:06               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-07 22:49                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:32               ` Zan Lynx
2007-08-08  1:31                 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08  4:50                   ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-08  6:47                     ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08  8:16                       ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08  8:27                       ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 20:54                         ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 12:37                           ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 12:52                             ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:02                               ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 18:04                                 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-08  2:27         ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08  5:39           ` Chris Snook

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