From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, ak@suse.de, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
davem@davemloft.net, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
wensong@linux-vs.org, horms@verge.net.au, wjiang@resilience.com,
cfriesen@nortel.com, zlynx@acm.org, rpjday@mindspring.com,
jesper.juhl@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on alpha
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:53:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46BB2A5A.5090006@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070809143255.GA8424@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> Why not the same access-once semantics for atomic_set() as
> for atomic_read()? As this patch stands, it might introduce
> architecture-specific compiler-induced bugs due to the fact that
> atomic_set() used to imply volatile behavior but no longer does.
When we make the volatile cast in atomic_read(), we're casting an rvalue to
volatile. This unambiguously tells the compiler that we want to re-load that
register from memory. What's "volatile behavior" for an lvalue? A write to an
lvalue already implies an eventual write to memory, so this would be a no-op.
Maybe you'll write to the register a few times before flushing it to memory, but
it will happen eventually. With an rvalue, there's no guarantee that it will
*ever* load from memory, which is what volatile fixes.
I think what you have in mind is LOCK_PREFIX behavior, which is not the purpose
of atomic_set. We use LOCK_PREFIX in the inline assembly for the atomic_*
operations that read, modify, and write a value, only because it is necessary to
perform that entire transaction atomically.
-- Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-09 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-09 13:24 [PATCH 1/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on alpha Chris Snook
2007-08-09 14:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 14:53 ` Chris Snook [this message]
2007-08-09 15:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 15:24 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 15:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 16:20 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:38 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 19:05 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 19:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 19:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-08-09 19:47 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 23:02 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 16:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 16:36 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 16:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 17:14 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 17:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 18:13 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 19:24 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10 1:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-10 19:49 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10 20:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 19:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 18:51 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 19:30 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10 8:21 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-10 9:08 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-10 15:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-10 20:07 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-11 0:00 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-11 0:38 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-11 0:43 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-11 0:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-11 4:38 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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