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From: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ulrich Kunitz <kune@deine-taler.de>,
	Bret Towe <magnade@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RESEND] PIE executable randomization
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:39:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46C33A67.1020102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708142224540.29843@jikos.suse.cz>

On 08/14/2007 04:41 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> (added Arjan to CC, as he has been working on the kernel part of the 
> randomization previously)
> 
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> 
>> If I'm reading the above hunk correctly, this means we will randomize 
>> all PIEs and even all dynamic linkers invoked as executables on i?86 and 
>> x86_64, and on the rest of arches we won't randomize at all, instead 
>> load ET_DYN objects at ELF_ET_DYN_BASE address. But I don't see anything 
>> i?86/x86_64 specific on this.
> 
> Hi Jakub,
> 
> actually, it is currently arch-specific, and that's because of different 
> memory layouts on different archs.
> 
> It turned out recently that PIE-compiled binaries on x86_64, that perform 
> larger amount of brk-allocations (for example bash) will not work (but 
> they will work on ?86). This is because currently on ?86 the memory layout 
> is as follows:

But your patch is enabling randomization for x86_64, because CONFIG_X86
includes both 32 and 64 bit archs.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-15 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-08 14:03 [PATCH] [RESEND] PIE executable randomization Jiri Kosina
2007-08-14 20:06 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-08-14 20:41   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-08-14 23:21     ` Jiri Kosina
2007-08-15 16:48       ` Kees Cook
2007-08-15 17:39     ` Chuck Ebbert [this message]
2007-08-15 21:05       ` Jiri Kosina

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