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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
Cc: Gerald Britton <gbritton@doomcom.org>,
	Michael Smith <msmith@xiph.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andy Wingo <wingo@fluendo.com>
Subject: Re: gettimeofday() jumping into the future
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:09:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46CDE981.9030506@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46CD85AC.7050805@argo.co.il>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Gerald Britton wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 01:08:27PM +0200, Michael Smith wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We've been seeing some strange behaviour on some of our applications
>>> recently. I've tracked this down to gettimeofday() returning spurious
>>> values occasionally.
>>>
>>> Specifically, gettimeofday() will suddenly, for a single call, return
>>> a value about 4398 seconds (~1 hour 13 minutes) in the future. The
>>> following call goes back to a normal value.
>>>     
>>
>> I have seen this as well (on a 2.6.20.4 kernel).  The value returned was
>> always identical each time the glitch occured (just a little over 4398
>> seconds).  I saw it watching packet receive timestamps and on the
>> system in
>> question, it would generally hit this problem around once a minute.  When
>> moving forward to a 2.6.21 kernel, the problem seemed to go away (also
>> back
>> to 2.6.17, unfortunately I didn't have any sample points inbetween).
>> I didn't have free time to spend bisecting attempting to find when the
>> behavior started or stopped.
> 
> That value, in nanoseconds, is 0x3fffd3a4c00.  The next second is
> 0x40038d51600.  Is the wraparound at (0x400 << 32) significant?
> 

This would be consistent with an off-by-2^32 error.  In particular, if
either a CPU bug or a code bug could at some point produce 0x400fxxxxxxx
in between then that would produce exactly the observed characteristics.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-23 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-23 11:08 gettimeofday() jumping into the future Michael Smith
2007-08-23 11:36 ` Gerald Britton
2007-08-23 13:03   ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-23 20:09     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-08-23 20:07   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-23 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-23 12:20   ` Michael Smith
2007-08-23 18:47     ` john stultz
2007-08-25 16:44       ` Michael Smith
2008-03-30 21:17 ` Tim Ricketts
2008-03-31  7:18   ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-03 11:47     ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-03 12:22       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-03 12:44         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-11 23:11           ` john stultz
2008-03-31  8:55   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-03-31 16:03     ` John Stultz
2008-04-02 11:22       ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-02 23:57         ` Karsten Wiese
2008-04-03  6:28           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-02  4:26   ` Mihai Donțu
2008-04-02  4:27     ` Mihai Donțu
     [not found] <47F3F313.7030803@vmware.com>
2008-04-02 22:40 ` Tim Mann

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